[pbkid74]

I dont see how you cant tell.

OMG HE HAS A GUN WITH A BOX MAG ON THE TOP WITH 2000 BULLETS!!!! AND A BOMB COMING OUT THE BACK!!!

[ThunderLights]

well 99% of speedball guns are anno'd something like pink, or orange, or red, or purple so i guess i cant be that bad

[pbkid74]

Even woodsball guns.

It is honestly not hard to distinguish between the two at all

[spqr-king]

Who would ever think California would be the starting place for the rally against our sport





Dodgy face.... Im on my phone... Or I would post the actual emoticon...

[spqr-king]

Panda, on 28 May 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

SoCalPB22, on 24 May 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Umm I have seen this this bill only applies to airsoft because those at immitation of real fire arms and that paintball have a unique shape so it might not be mistake as a real firearm unless mill sim

Well since our government is so corrupt, cops will shoot you if you point anything resembling a gun at them, whether it be clear, bright orange, or black.

Please be joking... If someone in a non controlled enviornment pointed anything that looked like a gun at me im aiming center mass. Thats not corruption its common sense, you dont point anything that looks like a gun at someone who is doing their job which is to protect people from crazy people who may have a real gun...

Just saying police work is a thankless job...

This post has been edited by spqr-king: 03 June 2012 - 12:31 PM

[PB2011]

I'm sure it will get shot down. But I have to ask... Who the hell supports this shit?

[ball1]

I'm less concerned about toy guns looking real than I am about "REAL" guns looking like toys. If this stupidity passes what are the chances that the criminal element will paint the tips of their guns orange to disguise them as toys. I wonder if any of the idiots that wrote the bill thought of that

[PBSL Carmen]

Why is this back on the table, when the California legislature has better things to worry about? Trying to protect us from our own stupidity will only make a lot of other people angry. If you point ANYTHING at a police officer, they will react as if whatever you're holding is lethal. Instead of requiring all markers to be bright colors, why don't we take the time they spent to draw up the bill and put it to better use?

I'd personally rather see progress on any of the "outdated" laws still on the books, than create new ones that ultimately don't change the fact that people will do stupid things.

[sameagol26]

This shit again?

[Dave1234]

Necro...but i see alot of you are forgetting companies like rap4? Their T68 looks and functions just like its actual counterpart. Hell i walked outta my local shop once wit a project salvo and had a cop damn near draw his gun on me...a friggan project salvo

[Mocking Da Bird]

It's not so much about the "corruption" in this bill, it's how distinctive markers look to real firearms. Why do you think there are orange tips on airsoft guns? To prevent the look and lower awareness. But some idiots want to be funny and take off the orange tip and get caught with it.

But it's pretty ridiculous how you would shoot a marker, say, in the woods behind your house, then someone mistakes it for a real firearm. Like, when I need to test fire my markers, I have to be sure to cover everything up so that neighbors don't raise their eye brows worrying what I'm bringing in the woods, and my mother basically forces me to do it.

I don't really think markers like Egos, Geos, DMs, Axes, etc. should be considered lethal, or be worried that it looks like a real firearm, because when treated right, they shouldn't be considered lethal, and they have too much of a paintball gun look than a "Oh shit a real gun!" look.

Old thread, but guy above me bumped it, so.

This post has been edited by Mocking Da Bird: 14 July 2012 - 04:22 AM

[TheGuy]

Mocking Da Bird, on 14 July 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

It's not so much about the "corruption" in this bill, it's how distinctive markers look to real firearms. Why do you think there are orange tips on airsoft guns? To prevent the look and lower awareness. But some idiots want to be funny and take off the orange tip and get caught with it.

But it's pretty ridiculous how you would shoot a marker, say, in the woods behind your house, then someone mistakes it for a real firearm. Like, when I need to test fire my markers, I have to be sure to cover everything up so that neighbors don't raise their eye brows worrying what I'm bringing in the woods, and my mother basically forces me to do it.

I don't really think markers like Egos, Geos, DMs, Axes, etc. should be considered lethal, or be worried that it looks like a real firearm, because when treated right, they shouldn't be considered lethal, and they have too much of a paintball gun look than a "Oh shit a real gun!" look.

Old thread, but guy above me bumped it, so.

If you point anything at a cop with a gun shape they will act as if it is a real gun, even if they know it isnt. Basically anything with a barrel and trigger is enough to get yourself in a lot of trouble. Its a crazy world, they dont take chances when someone is pointing something at them and they dont know what it is.

[Mocking Da Bird]

TheGuy, on 15 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Mocking Da Bird, on 14 July 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

It's not so much about the "corruption" in this bill, it's how distinctive markers look to real firearms. Why do you think there are orange tips on airsoft guns? To prevent the look and lower awareness. But some idiots want to be funny and take off the orange tip and get caught with it.

But it's pretty ridiculous how you would shoot a marker, say, in the woods behind your house, then someone mistakes it for a real firearm. Like, when I need to test fire my markers, I have to be sure to cover everything up so that neighbors don't raise their eye brows worrying what I'm bringing in the woods, and my mother basically forces me to do it.

I don't really think markers like Egos, Geos, DMs, Axes, etc. should be considered lethal, or be worried that it looks like a real firearm, because when treated right, they shouldn't be considered lethal, and they have too much of a paintball gun look than a "Oh shit a real gun!" look.

Old thread, but guy above me bumped it, so.

If you point anything at a cop with a gun shape they will act as if it is a real gun, even if they know it isnt. Basically anything with a barrel and trigger is enough to get yourself in a lot of trouble. Its a crazy world, they dont take chances when someone is pointing something at them and they dont know what it is.

I acknowledge that, but I've seen reports of cops shooting kids with a squirt gun. They'd probably shoot you if you make the gun gesture with your index finger and thumb.

[raven_op]

Mocking Da Bird, on 15 July 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

TheGuy, on 15 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Mocking Da Bird, on 14 July 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

It's not so much about the "corruption" in this bill, it's how distinctive markers look to real firearms. Why do you think there are orange tips on airsoft guns? To prevent the look and lower awareness. But some idiots want to be funny and take off the orange tip and get caught with it.

But it's pretty ridiculous how you would shoot a marker, say, in the woods behind your house, then someone mistakes it for a real firearm. Like, when I need to test fire my markers, I have to be sure to cover everything up so that neighbors don't raise their eye brows worrying what I'm bringing in the woods, and my mother basically forces me to do it.

I don't really think markers like Egos, Geos, DMs, Axes, etc. should be considered lethal, or be worried that it looks like a real firearm, because when treated right, they shouldn't be considered lethal, and they have too much of a paintball gun look than a "Oh shit a real gun!" look.

Old thread, but guy above me bumped it, so.

If you point anything at a cop with a gun shape they will act as if it is a real gun, even if they know it isnt. Basically anything with a barrel and trigger is enough to get yourself in a lot of trouble. Its a crazy world, they dont take chances when someone is pointing something at them and they dont know what it is.

I acknowledge that, but I've seen reports of cops shooting kids with a squirt gun. They'd probably shoot you if you make the gun gesture with your index finger and thumb.

I'm going into law enforcement, and it's that type of thinking giving cops a image of negativity. unless you know 100% what the situation was, think before you speak. that "squirt gun" could have looked real, and if you understand stress reactions to the body and perceptual narrowing, you know very well that it is plausible to mistake it for a firearm. think of what could of happened if that were a real gun and that person didnt react that same way. that cop might have a family to go home to.

I dont agree at all with this bill. People that are responsible about paintball/airsoft/whatever it is that involves replica firearms will do it in a place that will not attract the wrong attention. and i bet 99.999% of all possible cases of kids playing with guns are harmless. if you walk into a bank with a paintball marker in your hand, regardless of if it looks like an M249 SAW or a dragon timmy and you had no intent on robbing said bank, you deserve to be embarrassed to hell and put on your ass for doing something epically stupid. (not to be shot, just to clarify, i meant arrested and given a boot in the ass and a fine for stupidity)

you could make a million rules/bills/legislations/banhammers/ect all you want, people will find a way to break them and do stupid shit.

P.S. to the poster who said all cops are corrupt because of the govenrment, you are an idiot. please dont call the cops next time something bad happens to you. if you believe that than you deserve no help at all.

[armonster12]

SoCalPB22, on 24 May 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Umm I have seen this this bill only applies to airsoft because those at immitation of real fire arms and that paintball have a unique shape so it might not be mistake as a real firearm unless mill sim

but people are stupid as shit. i was taking appart my gun in my balcony when the guy across my alley was all like "kid put that gun away, you can ill someone" i tried to explain its a paintball gun, it isnt loaded, and theres no tank on it, and hes like doesnt matter, people can be sooooo thick skulled

[REDCOBRA]

Don't blame people for not knowing what the characteristics of a paintball marker are. i'm guessing not even 1 out of 4 people have even played before. Even if someone does know what a paintball marker looks like, how would they know if your'e not some crazy person who has the intent of causing harm to others with it?( don't say " you can't die from it", remember why you have to wear a mask?) Look at recent events , no matter how much you think it won't happen, when people see anything that looks like a gun in public now they will instantly believe it is one. If you get in trouble for carrying a marker in public it is your own fault. Do you self and everyone else a favor and carry your marker in a case.

This post has been edited by REDCOBRA: 23 July 2012 - 02:40 PM

[asthmaticrhino]

LUXOR54, on 05 April 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

how do they plan to enforce this though? go to a paintball field and spray paint everyones guns orange? like hell they're gonna pay anodzing fee's to everyone who has a paintball marker/airsoft gun. are they just gonna make all the new ones coming in fit that regulation if it passes?

I believe how the bill is writting it only applies to airsoft and "replica firearms", so milsim paintball markers could be affected. I imagine that it will be like the semi recent (2000) low capacity mag law. If you had a mag that carried more than 10 rounds purchased before 2000, you didnt have to get rid of it. Same with paintball markers, all the new ones would be brightly colored, you could keep ur old one

[asthmaticrhino]

I don't think that applies to paintball guns. I believe it only applies to guns that have the orange tip rule already instated on them, so I don't think paintball markers