[pballerj]

I currently own an Azodin Blitz and I was thinking about upgrading to the GoG eXTCy. I heard the eXTCy is a good gun for the price and it's really quiet and smooth. I don't want to spend anything over $300 for my new gun, so the eXTCy seems like a pretty good choice. Is this a good choice? What are some good/bad features of the eXTCy? What other guns do you guys suggest?

[cpuwhiz22]

I have it and love it. It's very durable, and easy to service. It will also run on CO2 as well as HPA, which is one of the main reasons I bought it since a few times a year I play on private property where we get a bulk CO2 tank for the weekend. The blackheart board is great, and has a ton of firing modes, along with First Shot Drop Off (FSDO) and dwell configuration. It's got everything I need at the moment and it is only $250 new, or around $175-200 used. I highly recommend it.

[Danny D]

I second cpuwhiz.


The extcy is the best new gun in its price range. Others may suggest the rail, but its a lesser gun for the money (not saying its a bad marker, the extcy is just more for your $$). Its board is not nearly as ajustable as the extcy, and the board is not waterproof like the extcy either. In the end though it may come down to preference for you though. But it seems your into the extcy, so you cant go wrong. Go for it.

[Pewis]

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

[cybermaniac15]

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

Anything to back this up?

While I do think the extcy is a better overall gun than the blitz, there is no point in upgrading from a decent low-end, to a "more decent" low end. Save up and get a used mid-end. You can find stock axes in the low 300s..

This post has been edited by cybermaniac15: 19 December 2012 - 01:40 PM

[Pewis]

cybermaniac15, on 19 December 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

Anything to back this up?

While I do think the extcy is a better overall gun than the blitz, there is no point in upgrading from a decent low-end, to a "more decent" low end. Save up and get a used mid-end. You can find stock axes in the low 300s..

Exactly my point. Why go from a lower class gun to another lower class gun. I REAllY like the proto rail... The G5 looks good as well as the Etha but you could also buy used guns

[PREDATOR 47]

used Axe or eXTCY.

[cybermaniac15]

You do know that the rail, g5, and Etha are all marketed as low-ends right?

[tallsmallboy44]

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

The Rail IS a low end entry level marker, as is the Etha. I have actually seen more Rails go down, than eXTCy's. Upgrades into a low end are almost useless. He wants to have the CO2 option for outlaw ball, and the eXTCy, Rail, and Etha can be used in the woods, and for speedball.

Your argument is silly.

[Razgriz183]

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

what?!?!??!?! a rail is a entry level marker... and how would spending a additional $100 make it a reflex? Dye would be complete idiots if they make a entry marker like their mid-lvl marker... and only taking $100 to get it to the mid-level line is silly. A entry level marker will always be a entry level marker regardless of how many upgrades you put in it.

The Extcy comes w/a long barrel, on/off asa, a board you can program without opening up the grips, a hard case and a complete aluminum frame. a Rail has none of these... Also why does he ONLY have to play speedball with a Etha? at that pricing point I rather actually buy a Reflex or Axe over a Etha

[Pewis]

Razgriz183, on 19 December 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

what?!?!??!?! a rail is a entry level marker... and how would spending a additional $100 make it a reflex? Dye would be complete idiots if they make a entry marker like their mid-lvl marker... and only taking $100 to get it to the mid-level line is silly. A entry level marker will always be a entry level marker regardless of how many upgrades you put in it.

The Extcy comes w/a long barrel, on/off asa, a board you can program without opening up the grips, a hard case and a complete aluminum frame. a Rail has none of these... Also why does he ONLY have to play speedball with a Etha? at that pricing point I rather actually buy a Reflex or Axe over a Etha

You only need to replace clamping feedneck, trigger, Asa, and barrel and that's 100-120 dollars. As I said before, the Extcy looks like a incredibly good gun at first but it's durability sucks. Gog Extcy is compared to Azodin Blitz and Spyders and the Rail is compared to the g4 and the mini. Honestly, I personally dont care about the board because I only use semi and everyone else should as well. Honestly, I don't know why you are arguing with me because all I am doing is supporting what mike from techpb says and he is much more experienced than both of us combined. I said the Etha is a good gun for only speedball because there are many other markers in that price range that are very good for other things and I also think that this also applies to the extcy. For example, the rail would be a good gun for woodsball and speedball because it is a tank and it can really take a hit. The Etha was designed for use in speedball because it requires high maitnance compared to the rail. Im not saying you can't use the Etha in woodsball. All I am saying is that the rail fits into other types of paintball that are not speedball better than the Gog extcy or Etha.

[Steephill]

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Razgriz183, on 19 December 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dont buy the extcy buy the proto rail. It might look like a very good choice at first but 1st, the extcy is a entry level marker and the rail is more mid level marker and 2nd, the proto rail is much more durable. With 100 dollars worth of upgrades you can make the proto rail a reflex rail which is more like a lower upper class gun. Honestly the Gog Extcy is good at first but it is not so durable and it will begin to break down. And besides, why would you want to use Co2 if HPA gives better consistency. Forget about the Extcy and buy a rail. If you can put in a couple of extra bucks and you want to play ONLY speedball, buy the Etha.

what?!?!??!?! a rail is a entry level marker... and how would spending a additional $100 make it a reflex? Dye would be complete idiots if they make a entry marker like their mid-lvl marker... and only taking $100 to get it to the mid-level line is silly. A entry level marker will always be a entry level marker regardless of how many upgrades you put in it.

The Extcy comes w/a long barrel, on/off asa, a board you can program without opening up the grips, a hard case and a complete aluminum frame. a Rail has none of these... Also why does he ONLY have to play speedball with a Etha? at that pricing point I rather actually buy a Reflex or Axe over a Etha

You only need to replace clamping feedneck, trigger, Asa, and barrel and that's 100-120 dollars. As I said before, the Extcy looks like a incredibly good gun at first but it's durability sucks. Gog Extcy is compared to Azodin Blitz and Spyders and the Rail is compared to the g4 and the mini. Honestly, I personally dont care about the board because I only use semi and everyone else should as well. Honestly, I don't know why you are arguing with me because all I am doing is supporting what mike from techpb says and he is much more experienced than both of us combined. I said the Etha is a good gun for only speedball because there are many other markers in that price range that are very good for other things and I also think that this also applies to the extcy. For example, the rail would be a good gun for woodsball and speedball because it is a tank and it can really take a hit. The Etha was designed for use in speedball because it requires high maitnance compared to the rail. Im not saying you can't use the Etha in woodsball. All I am saying is that the rail fits into other types of paintball that are not speedball better than the Gog extcy or Etha.

You're out of your mind... Have you seen the Etha durability tests?? If anything it can take more than the rail. The Rail is a LOW END marker, nothing will make it mid end. Everything you say you should upgrade on it already comes upgraded on the Extcy. I have no problem with someone liking a rail over an extcy or anything, they're both good markers. But when you say the extcy sucks and the rail is a mid end marker...lolwut. For $100-200 more upgrading a rail you're getting into Axe and Drone DX territory. Both better markers than the rail. Mike has an opinion that the rail is better than the extcy, that's fine. But that doesnt mean it's a mid end marker and stomps all over the extcy. And idk why you say the extcy is less durable than the rail...

[tallsmallboy44]

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

You only need to replace clamping feedneck, trigger, Asa, and barrel and that's 100-120 dollars
More than that.
. As I said before, the Extcy looks like a incredibly good gun at first but it's durability sucks. The eXTCy is incredibly durable, and has more aluminum parts than the Rail
Gog Extcy is compared to Azodin Blitz and Spyders and the Rail is compared to the g4 and the mini. This statement makes no sense whatsoever
Honestly, I personally dont care about the board because I only use semi and everyone else should as well.Tournaments?
I said the Etha is a good gun for only speedball because there are many other markers in that price range that are very good for other things and I also think that this also applies to the extcy. For example, the rail would be a good gun for woodsball and speedball because it is a tank and it can really take a hit. The Etha was designed for use in speedball because it requires high maitnance compared to the rail. Im not saying you can't use the Etha in woodsball. All I am saying is that the rail fits into other types of paintball that are not speedball better than the Gog extcy or Etha.
The Etha, Rail, and eXTCy work equally well in the woods and speedball

You are looney toons. Do you have the slightest clue what you are talking about?

[Razgriz183]

tallsmallboy44, on 19 December 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

You only need to replace clamping feedneck, trigger, Asa, and barrel and that's 100-120 dollars
More than that. if i'm paying more to upgrade i'll just look at a better marker
. As I said before, the Extcy looks like a incredibly good gun at first but it's durability sucks. The eXTCy is incredibly durable, and has more aluminum parts than the Rail, i've seen more dye guns bent then any gog guns/SP
Gog Extcy is compared to Azodin Blitz and Spyders and the Rail is compared to the g4 and the mini. This statement makes no sense whatsoever agreed, and honestly all the guns you listed are pretty much ALL entry level markers, mechanical and electro
Honestly, I personally dont care about the board because I only use semi and everyone else should as well.Tournaments? good luck playing uncapped semi in a capped semi field
I said the Etha is a good gun for only speedball because there are many other markers in that price range that are very good for other things and I also think that this also applies to the extcy. For example, the rail would be a good gun for woodsball and speedball because it is a tank and it can really take a hit. The Etha was designed for use in speedball because it requires high maitnance compared to the rail. Im not saying you can't use the Etha in woodsball. All I am saying is that the rail fits into other types of paintball that are not speedball better than the Gog extcy or Etha.
The Etha, Rail, and eXTCy work equally well in the woods and speedball

You are looney toons. Do you have the slightest clue what you are talking about?

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[pballerj]

haha thanks guys, and by the way I use hpa not co2..

[tallsmallboy44]

pballerj, on 19 December 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

haha thanks guys, and by the way I use hpa not co2..

It is always a nice feature to have on a low end, especially if you want to play outlaw ball with some friends.

[Pewis]

Dude i dont know why you are getting so serious about this... From personal experience, the rail has been the gun that can take the biggest hit and the one who lasts longest in the hands of begginers ( those are normally the people who buy these guns) If you dont mind having very high maitnance on the gun, then you can go for any gun

[Pewis]

Razgriz183, on 19 December 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

tallsmallboy44, on 19 December 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Pewis, on 19 December 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

You only need to replace clamping feedneck, trigger, Asa, and barrel and that's 100-120 dollars
More than that. if i'm paying more to upgrade i'll just look at a better marker
. As I said before, the Extcy looks like a incredibly good gun at first but it's durability sucks. The eXTCy is incredibly durable, and has more aluminum parts than the Rail, i've seen more dye guns bent then any gog guns/SP im not talking about bent, im taking about internal problems
Gog Extcy is compared to Azodin Blitz and Spyders and the Rail is compared to the g4 and the mini. This statement makes no sense whatsoever agreed, and honestly all the guns you listed are pretty much ALL entry level markers, mechanical and electro
Honestly, I personally dont care about the board because I only use semi and everyone else should as well.Tournaments? good luck playing uncapped semi in a capped semi field
I said the Etha is a good gun for only speedball because there are many other markers in that price range that are very good for other things and I also think that this also applies to the extcy. For example, the rail would be a good gun for woodsball and speedball because it is a tank and it can really take a hit. The Etha was designed for use in speedball because it requires high maitnance compared to the rail. Im not saying you can't use the Etha in woodsball. All I am saying is that the rail fits into other types of paintball that are not speedball better than the Gog extcy or Etha.
The Etha, Rail, and eXTCy work equally well in the woods and speedball

You are looney toons. Do you have the slightest clue what you are talking about?

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[R U S H]

These arguments are popping up everywhere.. Here.

http://www.techpb.co...=0#entry3027864

You should should see how it feels in your hands before you buy either of them in my opinion. I wish I would have done that for my Azodin Zenith..

[Hitman2513]

Danny D, on 19 December 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I second cpuwhiz.


The extcy is the best new gun in its price range. Others may suggest the rail, but its a lesser gun for the money (not saying its a bad marker, the extcy is just more for your $$). Its board is not nearly as ajustable as the extcy, and the board is not waterproof like the extcy either. In the end though it may come down to preference for you though. But it seems your into the extcy, so you cant go wrong. Go for it.

I second this

DannyD knows his shit more than I do with ions go with what he says