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Paintball field sued by non-profit for the blind.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:15 PM

Well,look at it this way:What other sports could they play?Pretty much all sports require vision in order to carry out a certain goal.Football,soccer,baseball,golf,and the list goes on.What if a blind kid had stepped up to a football coach and said"I wanna play!"The coach would have probably said(a little nicer)"You're blind,you can't play",then the kid would have gone home and told his parents,the parents would have sued the school,and the case would be plastered all over the headlines.This could happen in any sport,not just paintball.

Besides,a majority of the posts here happened 6+ months ago,so obviously this has been worked out.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:45 PM

View Postpaintballguy2255, on 01 January 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Well,look at it this way:What other sports could they play?Pretty much all sports require vision in order to carry out a certain goal.Football,soccer,baseball,golf,and the list goes on.What if a blind kid had stepped up to a football coach and said"I wanna play!"The coach would have probably said(a little nicer)"You're blind,you can't play",then the kid would have gone home and told his parents,the parents would have sued the school,and the case would be plastered all over the headlines.This could happen in any sport,not just paintball.

Besides,a majority of the posts here happened 6+ months ago,so obviously this has been worked out.


Probably not. Have you had to deal with the legal system? Things take time. And this will be one of them.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

True,true.Does anyone know where this is at?

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:09 PM

View Postpaintballguy2255, on 01 January 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

True,true.Does anyone know where this is at?


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Lawyers representing a non-profit Maryland group are suing a White Marsh paintball park for not letting them play.


Paintball is a visual sport. But it’s doubtful that’s what lawyers for Blind Industries and Services of Maryland, a non-profit whose stated “purpose is to positively change people's attitudes about blindness,” were thinking when they filed the first-of-its-kind lawsuit against Route 40 Paintball Park in U.S. District Court.


From the original post. Pretty good guess that it would be in Maryland.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

I meant in the legal process.Like,Has it been resolved?

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:51 PM

That's a good question. I can't find anything beyond what we already know, so I have no idea. Maybe someone could contact the courts and see if they can get any info on this?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:33 AM

That is so dumb. yea i get that this "Non-profit" organization thinks its "unfair" to not let blind people but its more of a safety issue than anything! the reason why i put non-profit in quotes is because these idiots - the non profit organization leaders are trying to make a quick buck off this guy. I get that they want to showcase that blind people are just like everyone else but the fact of the matter is that they are still handicapped in one way or another even if they can do all the normal things that regular people do they can't do it in the same manner as someone who isn't handicapped. I.E)it might take a regular person to do something in 5 minutes where as a handicapped person can do the same thing but in lets say 10 minutes. sure they can still do it, but it is not the same.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:09 AM

thats just crazy

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

Motions for summary judgment by both sides were denied in December. The case must continue in trial and perhaps go to a jury.

http://law.justia.co...03562/196585/32

EDIT: If you want to keep following this case, go to this link and look for "Available Case Documents". I've linked to the most recent document as of 1/23/2013.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

I live in America and must say I am very saddened by these horseshit cases. My friend's father is a cop and he got sued by someone he arrested for being "too rough" when he arrested him. The hand cuffs apparently made the guy's hands get the feeling of "pins-n-needles" which is a sign of circulation loss so the asshat sued the Police Office for allowing this to happen. Nothing came of it but my friend's dad was under constant watch for 1 year as the case was worked out and finally just went away.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:44 AM

Next they will want guns, and a pilot licens

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

How in the world is doing this sort of crap going to change peoples outlooks on blink people in a positive way?

"Blind-firing" also helps with keeping the paintballs within the confines of the fields, stick a marker out the top of the bunker and start firing while waving around, if the parking lot is out that way with UNMASKED, players, children, parents, the stands, my Bently (kidding, it's just a 'tang).....

I don't think it would be too far fetched to think the visually impaired are going to lose this one with mild reasoning to a judge; however most people will side with the blind people just because they're well, blind. People throw out reason when someone is disabled. In America we don't equal rights for everyone, everyone wants special rights per individual.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

My question is who's idea was this in the first place. Putting blind people on a paintball field was just a bad idea period, might as well have let the blind people drive to the field.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

its like anything else, it requires eyes to play. You dont see them trying to go to the shooting range with real weapons...the field owner probably was rude and that set these people off.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:48 PM

View PostPoopfairy35, on 18 February 2013 - 01:13 AM, said:

My question is who's idea was this in the first place. Putting blind people on a paintball field was just a bad idea period, might as well have let the blind people drive to the field.


At least a couple of the people claimed to have played, in their sight restricted state, previously.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:48 PM

View PostThe Knife Crazy, on 18 February 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

its like anything else, it requires eyes to play. You dont see them trying to go to the shooting range with real weapons...the field owner probably was rude and that set these people off.

I live in Baltimore and have never been to route 40 paintball.No one have ever had a nice thing to say about the place. The refs at the place are suppose to be horrible they go on the field and play on phones and do not actually ref games. They have shields and hide in the corner behind the shield not doing anything from what I have hear it would seem very possible that route 40 was very rude to them. I live in Baltimore so route 40 is pretty close to me but I drive 45 miles to paintball adventure park because we like it their so much better.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

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View PostThe Knife Crazy, on 18 February 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

its like anything else, it requires eyes to play. You dont see them trying to go to the shooting range with real weapons...the field owner probably was rude and that set these people off.

I live in Baltimore and have never been to route 40 paintball.No one have ever had a nice thing to say about the place. The refs at the place are suppose to be horrible they go on the field and play on phones and do not actually ref games. They have shields and hide in the corner behind the shield not doing anything from what I have hear it would seem very possible that route 40 was very rude to them. I live in Baltimore so route 40 is pretty close to me but I drive 45 miles to paintball adventure park because we like it their so much better.


Ive played once at rt 40. wasnt impressed. there seems to be a general lack of professionalism at that field so its highly likely that the situation was handled poorly and spun out of control. but none of us where there when it happened so until someone who was speaks up its a moot point. personally I believe in the end the case will be dismissed but hey nonprofit groups somehow can afford the best lawyers so who knows.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

View PostIronchefxingba, on 20 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

View Postbmorepaintballman, on 19 February 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostThe Knife Crazy, on 18 February 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

its like anything else, it requires eyes to play. You dont see them trying to go to the shooting range with real weapons...the field owner probably was rude and that set these people off.

I live in Baltimore and have never been to route 40 paintball.No one have ever had a nice thing to say about the place. The refs at the place are suppose to be horrible they go on the field and play on phones and do not actually ref games. They have shields and hide in the corner behind the shield not doing anything from what I have hear it would seem very possible that route 40 was very rude to them. I live in Baltimore so route 40 is pretty close to me but I drive 45 miles to paintball adventure park because we like it their so much better.


Ive played once at rt 40. wasnt impressed. there seems to be a general lack of professionalism at that field so its highly likely that the situation was handled poorly and spun out of control. but none of us where there when it happened so until someone who was speaks up its a moot point. personally I believe in the end the case will be dismissed but hey nonprofit groups somehow can afford the best lawyers so who knows.


You guys are making some pretty wild assumptions. I go up to Route 40 as much as I possibly can? Why? Well yes, its true, the refs do sometimes play on their phones, but go ahead and tell me that you haven't while working your job? They have installed multiple safety nets and are really on top of their safety, giving safety orientations, making sure masks stay down, etc. The refs do not hide in the corner with shields. They make sure everyone is safe and having a good time. Make sure you actually visit the place before you cast your judgment.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

View PostAmateurBaller, on 20 February 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

View PostIronchefxingba, on 20 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

View Postbmorepaintballman, on 19 February 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostThe Knife Crazy, on 18 February 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

its like anything else, it requires eyes to play. You dont see them trying to go to the shooting range with real weapons...the field owner probably was rude and that set these people off.

I live in Baltimore and have never been to route 40 paintball.No one have ever had a nice thing to say about the place. The refs at the place are suppose to be horrible they go on the field and play on phones and do not actually ref games. They have shields and hide in the corner behind the shield not doing anything from what I have hear it would seem very possible that route 40 was very rude to them. I live in Baltimore so route 40 is pretty close to me but I drive 45 miles to paintball adventure park because we like it their so much better.


Ive played once at rt 40. wasnt impressed. there seems to be a general lack of professionalism at that field so its highly likely that the situation was handled poorly and spun out of control. but none of us where there when it happened so until someone who was speaks up its a moot point. personally I believe in the end the case will be dismissed but hey nonprofit groups somehow can afford the best lawyers so who knows.


You guys are making some pretty wild assumptions. I go up to Route 40 as much as I possibly can? Why? Well yes, its true, the refs do sometimes play on their phones, but go ahead and tell me that you haven't while working your job? They have installed multiple safety nets and are really on top of their safety, giving safety orientations, making sure masks stay down, etc. The refs do not hide in the corner with shields. They make sure everyone is safe and having a good time. Make sure you actually visit the place before you cast your judgment.


that's cute. as I said I have been there and while I was there Safety was the last thing on the list for them, they constantly had masks up on the field with live markers, allowing live markers to be brought outside the nets into the staging area without barrel socks this is the refs im talking about not the players. if this has changed since my visit then good for them glad they got their act together. but at the time of my visit they were not on top of their safety game. so while its great you want to defend the place, you have to realize just because they do the right stuff now doesn't mean they always did.
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