[cockerpunk]

[erg993]

THANK you. Shared it on Facebook.

[andrewthewookie]

"Good paint?" What is this mythical "good paint" you speak of? Surely there must be some truth to this legend. It would bring hope to all those poor destitute souls who know not the power of good paint.

[cockerpunk]

andrewthewookie, on 28 November 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

"Good paint?" What is this mythical "good paint" you speak of? Surely there must be some truth to this legend. It would bring hope to all those poor destitute souls who know not the power of good paint.

[Silyputy]

its true i hate using crap paint. cant hit anything lol -.-

[TheGuy]

Paintball is already expensive. I only play around 5-6 times a year. I probably couldn't play even that much if I had to fork over $70-80 for evil, then entry, then air, then the gas.

Im also disappoint you didnt mention aggness

[TheGuy]

Paintball is already expensive. I only play around 5-6 times a year. I probably couldn't play even that much if I had to fork over $70-80 for evil, then entry, then air, then the gas.

Im also disappoint you didnt mention aggness

[NBTIppy]

Meh I'm content with some of the current high end paints, is it perfect? nope but it shoots good enough for my rec ball needs.

I can see the desire for the perfect paint in a tournament/competitive type scenario, but for rec ball in my opinion its pointless.

[FreeEnterprise]

wow, there were a lot of cussing in that video...

Yeah, GOOD paint is critical. But, I think there is a misconception that "brand" name paint will always be good... I've seen some EXCELLENT mid grade paint, and then the next time I went to buy it, it looked like dimpled cheese balls...

The KEY is to LOOK at it before you buy it, no matter if it is from a box store OR your local pro shop.

The things I look for. No visible seam. If you can see the seam, it will shoot lousy. If it is dimpled, it will shoot lousy. If it has broken balls in the bag, it will coat the inside of your barrel and shoot lousy... I even made a video months ago about this very subject.





Right now I am using some EXCELLENT paint, best I have used in years, and I got it from my local field as it was "seconds" from the factory. It is Draxxus something. (labeled generic since it was discounted) but this stuff shoots amazing. And you know what, I shoot WAY less of it as I can hit my target so much easier. (course I still throw a bunch of paint at times, because I ENJOY doing that...)

But, for $45 I would have bought a bunch more cases, only thing is they were out... So I got the last case and a bag from them... What we should push for is "born on" dating on the cases, and teaching companies how to transport and store paint. If they put it on a truck that is over 100 degrees, it will ruin the paint... And if they sit it on a shelf for 6 months... again, it will likely be bad as it has to be turned.

[unfated33]

There's no such thing as good paint where I live. Most fields only carry one type of paint. The only two fields I can think of that have scaled tiers of paint carry:

Field 1 (low, mid, high) - Valken Infinity, Valken Fate, Draxxus Bronze
Field 2 (low, mid, high) - XO Spectrum, Empire Custom Blend, Empire RPS Premium

A lot of people I've seen talking about paint on these forums don't consider either of those "high" grades as good paint.

[tallsmallboy44]

Field paint ONLY
^I can only buy what the field stocks.

[Myrkul]

Tell me about it. last time I played, the paint was awful.
It was all the field offered though....

[drg]

FreeEnterprise, on 28 November 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

wow, there were a lot of cussing in that video...

Yeah, GOOD paint is critical. But, I think there is a misconception that "brand" name paint will always be good... I've seen some EXCELLENT mid grade paint, and then the next time I went to buy it, it looked like dimpled cheese balls...

The KEY is to LOOK at it before you buy it, no matter if it is from a box store OR your local pro shop.

The things I look for. No visible seam. If you can see the seam, it will shoot lousy. If it is dimpled, it will shoot lousy. If it has broken balls in the bag, it will coat the inside of your barrel and shoot lousy... I even made a video months ago about this very subject.

Good amount of truth to this, freshness/batch quality is a big factor that affects just about all paint. In many cases high end paint may be handled better by the reseller than the field grade stuff, but whenever I am forced to buy mid to low end paint, freshness and batch quality (i.e. ask someone else how it's shooting and um ... look at his balls) are the keys.

High end paint though does have distinct advantages that overcome some of the fluctuations in individual batch (or case) quality -- such as better breakage on target and better marking.

[DamianE]

The Academy that I go to has RPS gold in stock usually. Because it is from Academy, I always check the shipping date. It's not as good as a born on date, but combined with a visual inspection, I have never been let down. I just wish there was some way to get ultra evil more broadly available than it is now.... ooh that stuff breaks faster than my car's windshield (been through 2 in as many months).

[Twinkletoes]

The MOST important thing in paintball IMO is having fun. You don't need a amazing marker or even(though important) good paint. Some people gain satisfaction from their low-end marker and their low-grade paint. I agree with your stance on this particular issue, but disagree with the title that paint is as phrased "actually important". It is a very important factor in paintball, but I would rather do something I enjoy while putting the amount of money I can afford into a activity, rather than being able to put a endless supply of money into something I absolutely hated. IDK just my .02.(and yes, I am biased as a teen not being able to afford nice paint every time I play, I would if I could, but its not happening)

[sticktodrum]

Commence the spreading of good information...again!

[asthmaticrhino]

Oops... I just posted this in the videos section.... awkward.

[crPaliza]

[Phoenix01]

A very valid point is proven with the video. Demand will always drive a company to produce what the customer wants. An example, Wal-Mart monitors what is selling and what is not selling on their shelves. They employ one of the most complex enterprise management systems in the nation to control their logistical distribution of products to their stores. If they notice one thing isn't being sold, it is simply removed from the shelf and that space is given to something else that sells well in that store. This information is gathered in a database and corporate decisions are based off of demand, yes profit too but that is a different conversation.

As Cockerpunk stated, the most important thing in paintball is the actual paintballs. Call them our linchpin, without them we are just making noise. Of course with the paintballs there will always be three crucial factors involved with it: cost, quality, and availability. If you talk to the guys who used to play back in the 80's, paint cost has definately gone down and to an extent the availability has gone up. So at least those to things are going for us but as far as quality is concerned, paintballers in general need to demand that the quality of paint go up. I don't think anyone can expect this change to happen overnight, but if enough people demand it then I am sure the producers will eventually decide that it is the correct step to take.

[cockerpunk]

Phoenix01, on 28 November 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

As Cockerpunk stated, the most important thing in paintball is the actual paintballs. Call them our linchpin, without them we are just making noise. Of course with the paintballs there will always be three crucial factors involved with it: cost, quality, and availability. If you talk to the guys who used to play back in the 80's, paint cost has definately gone down and to an extent the availability has gone up. So at least those to things are going for us but as far as quality is concerned, paintballers in general need to demand that the quality of paint go up. I don't think anyone can expect this change to happen overnight, but if enough people demand it then I am sure the producers will eventually decide that it is the correct step to take.

exactly right. and it starts by convincing people, that maybe instead of spending 1000 dollars on hard goods that really, when the rubber meets the road, doesn;t really help you much putting paintballs on the other team - but spending a bit more for better paint, will actually make a difference in your ability to put paintball on the other team. and paying that 10-25 buck premium, is actually the single most cost effective way to help your game.

you sell that idea to players -> quality and availability of quality paint, will improve.