[UV Halo]

DRG,

Shot to Shot velocity fluctuations do have the potential to increase vertical axis spread. Assuming a flat and level shot here's how the same paintball looks at varying velocities between 280 and 300

[rntlee]

drg, on 10 August 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Regardless, the presence of the calculated difference indicates that there does exist a force differential between balls traveling at different velocities, and I just can't think of a reason it would not be a good idea to reduce or eliminate that differential. That force HAS to be affecting the flight of the balls, if we accept the physics as valid.

In a vacuum, yes velocity inconsistencies =<12fps would translate into noticeable trajectory deviations at 100'. In the real-world, asymmetric boundary layer tripping, from spin and/or surface defects, causes force to be applied to the balls in random directions as they fly to the target. The smaller velocity-induced y-axis deviations are lost in the noise of the larger forces.

It's pretty simple to prove otherwise to us. Just run an experiment of your own. If you're not willing to do this, then everything you've posted is simply armchair speculation and not worth the time it takes for you to type it out.

This post has been edited by rntlee: 11 August 2012 - 01:39 PM

[tyronejk]

I would just like to add, for future reference, that, by definition, accuracy and consistency are unrelated, ie a gun can be accurate, but inconsistent, or a gun can be consistent, but inaccurate.

Accuracy is how far the center of your bullet/paintball spread is from your target. If you're shooting a 5-foot spread perfectly centered around a 3-inch target painted on a wall, then your gun is accurate, but inconsistent.

Consistency is how small/large your bullet/paintball spread is. If you're shooting at the same target, but now you're shooting within a 1-inch circle 5-feet to the right of the target, your gun is consistent, but inaccurate.

[citation]

[UV Halo]

tyronejk, on 29 August 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I would just like to add, for future reference, that, by definition, accuracy and consistency are unrelated, ie a gun can be accurate, but inconsistent, or a gun can be consistent, but inaccurate.

Accuracy is how far the center of your bullet/paintball spread is from your target. If you're shooting a 5-foot spread perfectly centered around a 3-inch target painted on a wall, then your gun is accurate, but inconsistent.

Consistency is how small/large your bullet/paintball spread is. If you're shooting at the same target, but now you're shooting within a 1-inch circle 5-feet to the right of the target, your gun is consistent, but inaccurate.

[citation]

You should have read at least the first page of this thread. If you did you would see that "consistency" in this conversation is being used in the context of Velocity Consistency or, how much your FPS varies from shot to shot. Then, the following posts in this thread go on to question how much the balls may spread based on the changing velocities due to simple trajectory physics and theoretical differences due to vortex shedding at varying velocities, etc.

In regards to "accuracy and consistency are unrelated", on this sub forum, that has been discussed in regards to "Accuracy Vs Precision" as it has been discussed on that very same wiki you linked in the section "Accuracy versus precision: the target analogy".

[Eskimo]

So what everyone is trying to say is:

The more money you spend on a barrel, the more consistent And accurate it is.

Spoiler

This post has been edited by Eskimo: 29 August 2012 - 08:57 PM

[tyronejk]

UV Halo, on 29 August 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

tyronejk, on 29 August 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I would just like to add, for future reference, that, by definition, accuracy and consistency are unrelated, ie a gun can be accurate, but inconsistent, or a gun can be consistent, but inaccurate.

Accuracy is how far the center of your bullet/paintball spread is from your target. If you're shooting a 5-foot spread perfectly centered around a 3-inch target painted on a wall, then your gun is accurate, but inconsistent.

Consistency is how small/large your bullet/paintball spread is. If you're shooting at the same target, but now you're shooting within a 1-inch circle 5-feet to the right of the target, your gun is consistent, but inaccurate.

[citation]

You should have read at least the first page of this thread. If you did you would see that "consistency" in this conversation is being used in the context of Velocity Consistency or, how much your FPS varies from shot to shot. Then, the following posts in this thread go on to question how much the balls may spread based on the changing velocities due to simple trajectory physics and theoretical differences due to vortex shedding at varying velocities, etc.

In regards to "accuracy and consistency are unrelated", on this sub forum, that has been discussed in regards to "Accuracy Vs Precision" as it has been discussed on that very same wiki you linked in the section "Accuracy versus precision: the target analogy".

I would just like to add, for future reference, that, by definition, accuracy and consistency are unrelated, ie a gun can be accurate, but inconsistent, or a gun can be consistent, but inaccurate.

Accuracy is how far the center of your bullet/paintball spread is from your target. If you're shooting a 5-foot spread perfectly centered around a 3-inch target painted on a wall, then your gun is accurate, but inconsistent.

Consistency is how small/large your bullet/paintball spread is. If you're shooting at the same target, but now you're shooting within a 1-inch circle 5-feet to the right of the target, your gun is consistent, but inaccurate.

[citation]

[Troy]

tyronejk, on 02 September 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

I would just like to add, for future reference, that, by definition, accuracy and consistency are unrelated, ie a gun can be accurate, but inconsistent, or a gun can be consistent, but inaccurate.

Accuracy is how far the center of your bullet/paintball spread is from your target. If you're shooting a 5-foot spread perfectly centered around a 3-inch target painted on a wall, then your gun is accurate, but inconsistent.

Consistency is how small/large your bullet/paintball spread is. If you're shooting at the same target, but now you're shooting within a 1-inch circle 5-feet to the right of the target, your gun is consistent, but inaccurate.

We are aware of this discrepancy... in here, we commonly refer to "accuracy" in regards to shot grouping on a target, and consistency as the amount of speed fluctuation over the chrono. It could be argued that both measures are REALLY just a measure of consistency, but there are good reasons for us to use such language. I would prefer not to open up that can of worms again, as it's been beaten to death, but let it suffice to say that we don't care about your ability to site in your marker (which would be "accuracy" in the sense you described above).