[spqr-king]

Just saw this on facebook. A ton of people are boycotting them now due to this email. I mean even if it wasnt paintball thats kind of shitty that its for fallen firefighters and they wont support though I would think they do a lot of these sorts of things but still...

This post has been edited by spqr-king: 04 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

[SOUP]

That's just the way it is, it's their loss the way I see it. They're the ones missing out on the opertunity. As a business perspective though there may be a certain reason for it. You can't just blindly sponsor everyone that asks for it. It costs money to do these things.

I think it would help promote the sport, yes, but you gotta see it from the other end of the table too.

I think it would be great to see redbull paintball videos. You just gotta remember how most people actually view paintall. Most people when they think of paintball, they visualize a group of friends shooting eachother in the ass out in their grandmas woods. Which just isn't the reality of it, as we all know. That's just our image, and maybe redbull thinks of us this way too.

[tatersinmytummy]

actually, it's a pretty smart business move, if dickish. redbull is a company, companies have to make money. given that paintball is still a relatively small sport, and redbull has no guarantee of making any sort of money off of paintball. basically redbull is making an investment, and seeing as how paintball is not broadcasted anywhere, and there are a select few people who go to events (and usually they spend all their money on paint and equipment). so redbull, while being dickish, does have a point. they will make barely any money off of sales, and since our sport isn't broadcast on any major networks they won't get much advertisement off of it either.

[asthmaticrhino]

Yet another reason not to drink red bull. Mostly because its horrible for you, but this too.
I don't understand why, they sponsor pretty much every action sport is sponsored by them. Them and monster compete for top dollar in snowboarding, skiing, skateboarding etc. And I don't think that is completely true, red bull sponsored a national tournament in south Africa. Either ask to speak to someone who has good or contact monster, I've seen multiple amateur paintball teams sponsored by them.

This post has been edited by asthmaticrhino: 04 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

[tatersinmytummy]

asthmaticrhino, on 04 February 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Yet another reason not to drink red bull. Mostly because its horrible for you, but this too.
I don't understand why, they sponsor pretty much every action sport is sponsored by them. Them and monster compete for top dollar in snowboarding, skiing, skateboarding etc.

while I agree redbull is shit for you, and tastes nasty, i don't understand why you think they wouldn't sponsor paintball. snowboarding, skiing, skateboarding, all of those sports are big ticket sports, they are televised to millions of people all the time, and they're easily accessible. they get TONS of advertising for these big sports, and they know how to make money. paintball is rarely if ever televised, and when it is no one watches it. they will get an incredibly small amount of publicity from this event, and they are a business. if they aren't going to make money they aren't going to sponsor the event. just good business.

[gibbeepbroxzor]

Monster Energy sponsors one of the events that my old local field holds. It's a Children's Miracle Network tournament I think. But if Monster is willing to sponsor paintball, you would think their biggest competitor, RedBull, would also be interested.

[III Kezia III]

makes sense why they wouldn't but at the same time if you raise thousands of dollars for your cause then It's not like redbull not backing you up will make or break this great cause.

[andrewthewookie]

gibbeepbroxzor, on 04 February 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

Monster Energy sponsors one of the events that my old local field holds. It's a Children's Miracle Network tournament I think. But if Monster is willing to sponsor paintball, you would think their biggest competitor, RedBull, would also be interested.

Because paintball makes almost no money for outside sponsors, if at all. So if Monster wants to waste money, I'm sure Redbull doesn't care.

[-ORaNGe-]

Gatorade supports Citrus, Rockstar has an entire CXBL speedball camp.

[canscom]

GAFF is just about empty

[Pyrate Jim]

Wow.
Close to home for me, I've attended these Guns For Hoses events in MA.
And yes, Red Bull was there with a pickup truck with a big redbull can on the back and two of the prettiest college girls.. .
I have pics somewhere of the Red Bull truck at one of the NFFF events.

So Red Bull has been to these events in the past.
Evidently, the corporation has not seen enough return on their product to make continuing sponsorship worthwhile.
OR
They spent too much money on space jumps and now can't afford to back us lowly paintball playas.

[-ORaNGe-]

We need to pitch something they can get behind, paintball on the moon....

[Klub]

or, paintballers can colaberate and combine all their money and buy mars. We will begin tera forming, and when the atmosphere forms, We will make it a paintball planet.

[Syrellaris]

I really don't think its true that paintball can't bring money to the sponsors. Red Bull sponsors any dumb dickhead capable of jumping a canal. Why else would they sponsor all the stupid shit. You think the parachutist that jumped out of a capsule near space was capable of doing that without Redbull sponsoring? It was Redbulls advertising and money that made it all possible.

If anything, Red Bull or Monsters sponsoring could help promote Paintball as a sport and get it to be broadcasted on more then web streams and in return would get them a shit ton of money from all the big tournament events. But then again, its Red Bulls loss if they don't.

[5ozofpain]

Honestly who the f**k cares? They aren't going to make money off of it why should they. I mean, I'm not on there side or anything but this does nothing bad for paintball, just another sponsor we will never have. The company is after money and if they can't profit they won't do it.

[SNmustang95]

Seeing as thugh redbull is not some terrible company, they don't say no for no reason. Just because they didn't sponsor one event doesn't make them a shitty company. That's a terrible reason to boycott a company.

[kingJurzy]

They showed up to my field which is really in the middle of no where in the city and arrived randomly with 2 hot girls and were passing out free Red Bull.


I believe it is a bunch of Bull (pun intended) that they do not wish to sponsor events like these.

[HeroForADay]

All of you who won't support red bull because they didn't want to support a small event they know nothing about, you people have no business sense. Straight up.

Why in the hell would a company sponsor an event at a whim, with no real knowledge of who they are ACTUALLY sponsoring, why they are sponsoring them, where the money is going and so on. Red bull is a business, and a god damn smart media company if you've watched some of their productions. Their response is not to say "we are never ever going to sponsor paintball, so feck off". You need to read it as, "we're not sponsoring this because we know nothing about it".

First off, any of you who think you go and blatantly ask for sponsor money, you have no idea how sponsorship works. It isn't some one sided deal, it's a mutual agreement of why you can do for them, and they will do for you. This 'request' is terrible at achieving that. Not only is it poorly written, but it creates no basis for any of the reasoning behind the request. It's a stupid, and overly simple request based off of heart strings.

Gib us moniez, it's for gud cause.

If you want professional relationships, act the part.

[SNmustang95]

HeroForADay, on 05 February 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

All of you who won't support red bull because they didn't want to support a small event they know nothing about, you people have no business sense. Straight up.

Why in the hell would a company sponsor an event at a whim, with no real knowledge of who they are ACTUALLY sponsoring, why they are sponsoring them, where the money is going and so on. Red bull is a business, and a god damn smart media company if you've watched some of their productions. Their response is not to say "we are never ever going to sponsor paintball, so feck off". You need to read it as, "we're not sponsoring this because we know nothing about it".

First off, any of you who think you go and blatantly ask for sponsor money, you have no idea how sponsorship works. It isn't some one sided deal, it's a mutual agreement of why you can do for them, and they will do for you. This 'request' is terrible at achieving that. Not only is it poorly written, but it creates no basis for any of the reasoning behind the request. It's a stupid, and overly simple request based off of heart strings.

Gib us moniez, it's for gud cause.

If you want professional relationships, act the part.

This. I'm sure if the request was written better, and looked more professional like dates, times, and what's going on at these events they'd be a little more interested. Hell, I know they have the red bull posse here that will come to events, as long as you let them know ahead of time. If I invited them to UWL and they saw all the people who came I'm sure they would think a little more about coming to the events more. Baby steps people.

[NBTIppy]

I don't blame them for not wanting to become involved in paintball as it wont be profitable. However, they did a miserable job wording that e-mail.