[Cookybiscuit]

I'm going to give you a sample of my computing experience.

"Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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mmmmmm"

Hey, hard drive, I'm trying to watch this, can you be quiet?

"Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

Piece of shit.

This post has been edited by Cookybiscuit: 14 January 2013 - 09:35 PM

[andrewthewookie]

So get a quieter hard drive. Silly Brit.

[Cookybiscuit]

I don't want to transfer 800GB's of porn. I filled my case full of sound proof foam to kill the clicking, now I get this, piece of shit.

[dustyshouri]

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

This post has been edited by dustyshouri: 14 January 2013 - 09:54 PM

[andrewthewookie]

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs

What hard drives are you buying that cost $1000 for a terabyte drive?

This post has been edited by andrewthewookie: 14 January 2013 - 10:09 PM

[Cookybiscuit]

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

SSD's are waaaaaaaay expensive sadly. Foam is proper stuff, temps are fine.

I tried wrapping my hard drive in rubber bands, didn't work.

[dustyshouri]

andrewthewookie, on 14 January 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs

What hard drives are you buying that cost $1000 for a terabyte drive?

I wasn't specifying exact values, meant it as $/GB, rather than a dollar per GB. In other words, SSDs cost more per GB than HDDs.

[IhasAcellular]

Cookybiscuit, on 14 January 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

SSD's are waaaaaaaay expensive sadly. Foam is proper stuff, temps are fine.

I tried wrapping my hard drive in rubber bands, didn't work.

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

[Cookybiscuit]

IhasAcellular, on 14 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

But then how would I peer through the side panel window and admire the soldering on the motherboard!?

[Blade of grass]

IhasAcellular, on 14 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Cookybiscuit, on 14 January 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

SSD's are waaaaaaaay expensive sadly. Foam is proper stuff, temps are fine.

I tried wrapping my hard drive in rubber bands, didn't work.

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

Wouldn't work, USBs have a 16 foot maximum length without buying powered hubs and such.

[Blade of grass]

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

Not true, the define r series cases come stock with sound isolation foam, and I haven't heard one complaint about cooling issues.

[tallsmallboy44]

Cookybiscuit, on 14 January 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

IhasAcellular, on 14 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

But then how would I peer through the side panel window and admire the soldering on the motherboard!?

An elaborate set of mirrors?

[Blade of grass]

tallsmallboy44, on 15 January 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

Cookybiscuit, on 14 January 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

IhasAcellular, on 14 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

But then how would I peer through the side panel window and admire the soldering on the motherboard!?

An elaborate set of mirrors?

He should buy an 8K monitor and camera and live stream it.

[mymutter]

Put said computer at parents house

run remote desktop application from tablet

Win


It would just be a nightmare if you needed to put in a dvd,

"no mom, a blank DVD+R, no, not the CD-R, it says DVD right on the disk, no, they should be right under my Skyrim case, to the left of my katie morgan dvd's, no mom, katie morgan is a show like sherlock holmes, don't watch it mom, it's really not that good. Skyrim, no, don't play that either. Look mom, .....

[IhasAcellular]

Blade of grass, on 14 January 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

IhasAcellular, on 14 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Cookybiscuit, on 14 January 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

SSD's are waaaaaaaay expensive sadly. Foam is proper stuff, temps are fine.

I tried wrapping my hard drive in rubber bands, didn't work.

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

Wouldn't work, USBs have a 16 foot maximum length without buying powered hubs and such.

usb 2.0 can run like 300ft or something brodog

[Cookybiscuit]

Its ok because I fixed it. Stood it up on sound proof foam and used cable ties as a safety net.

Too bad my motherboard and CPU died.

[kingJurzy]

Cookybiscuit, on 21 January 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Too bad my motherboard and CPU died.

lol

[TK-421]

IhasAcellular, on 21 January 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

usb 2.0 can run like 300ft or something brodog

You start losing signal quality around five meters if you don't use externally powered signal boosters.

[Blade of grass]

IhasAcellular, on 21 January 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

Blade of grass, on 14 January 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

IhasAcellular, on 14 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Cookybiscuit, on 14 January 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

dustyshouri, on 14 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

You can buy a SSD if you really want quiet, but they're not quite on the $1/GB ratio of HDDs; typically people will buy a small one, install their OS on SDD and put all their other crap on an HDD. And ya... nothing you can do but get a quieter drive, then again I guess this section is for venting, not solutions.

Also, filling your case with foam is a bad idea O.o The inside of your computer needs to breath and needs to be able to transfer all the hot air out of the case. If you crowd the interior, chances are your components aren't going to be properly venting their excess heat and toast themselves.

SSD's are waaaaaaaay expensive sadly. Foam is proper stuff, temps are fine.

I tried wrapping my hard drive in rubber bands, didn't work.

20ft hdmi cables/usb extensions are the solution.

RUN DAT PC OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE!

Wouldn't work, USBs have a 16 foot maximum length without buying powered hubs and such.

usb 2.0 can run like 300ft or something brodog

Nope, that's incorrect, without using a powered hub to amplify the signal, a USB has a maximum reach of 16 feet and abit

Also, when a USB is plugged in, it gets 26 nanoseconds to complete the handshake, when its over that length, it takes too long for handshake.

From http://www.usb.org/d...ers/usbfaq#cab1 (the inventors of USB)

Quote

Cables and Long-Haul Solutions

1. Why are there cable length limits, and what are they?

A: The cable length was limited by a cable delay spec of 26ns to allow for reflections to settle at the transmitter before the next bit was sent. Since USB uses source termination and voltage-mode drivers, this has to be the case, otherwise reflections can pile up and blow the driver. This does not mean the line voltage has fully settled by the end of the bit; with worst-case undertermination. However, there's been enough damping by the end of the bit that the reflection amplitude has been reduced to manageable levels. The low speed cable length was limited to 18ns to keep transmission line effects from impacting low speed signals.

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2. I want to build a cable longer than 5 meters, why won't this work?

A: Even if you violated the spec, it literally wouldn't get you very far. Assuming worst-case delay times, a full speed device at the bottom of 5 hubs and cables has a timeout margin of 280ps. Reducing this margin to 0ps would only give you an extra 5cm, which is hardly worth the trouble.

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3. What about using USB signal repeaters to make a cable longer than 5 meters?

A: Don't bother. The best solution is self-powered hub with a fixed 10m cable that had a one-port bus powered hub in the middle. The maximum range will still have to deal with the timeout, so any out of spec tweaking of the terminations between the two hubs and the timing budget still won't yield more than 5cm of extra distance. A better solution is described in the following question.

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4. I really need to put a USB device more than 30 meters away from my PC. What should I do?

A: Build a USB bridge that acts as a USB device on one side and has a USB host controller at the other end. Use a long-haul signaling protocol like Ethernet or RS-485 in the middle. Using cables or short-haul fiber, you can get ranges upwards of a kilometer, though there's no reason why the long-haul link in the middle of the bridge couldn't be a pair of radio transceivers or satellite modems.
Embedded host solutions capable of doing this already exist. Also, two PCs connected via USB Ethernet adapters are essentially a slave/slave version of this master/slave bridge.

Don't believe the inventors? Extra sources
http://www.ehow.com/...-usb-cable.html
http://photo.stackex...e-for-tethering
http://www.yourcable...em_ep_42-1.html

This post has been edited by Blade of grass: 22 January 2013 - 11:05 PM

[junits15]

Get an SSD
lol too bad they'll cost you an arm and a leg