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Spool Valve Vs. Poppet Valve What's the difference?! The end all thread!

#41 User is offline   NinjasEatPandas 

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 07:08 AM

3 cookies to the creator of this thread, excellent write up :tup:

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View PostCookybiscuit, on 15 September 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

http://www.techpb.co...howtopic=152223 All guns have the same accuracy.


I keep hearing that but it's just plain not true. The myth started when the famous open bolt vs closed bolt test was performed which proved that closed bolt operation in the exact same circumstances as open bolt operation is no more or less accurate, which is perfectly true. But somehow that spun out of control into people saying that no gun is more accurate than any other.

1) Consistency - the consistency of the gun greatly affects Y-axis accuracy...I don't think I really need to explain why...this one should be a "doh" type realization.
2) Platform Stability - A shot is not a single moment in time, it is very short yes, but not instant. The smallest deviation in gun position from the time the paintball starts moving at the beginning of the barrel and the time it gets to the end of the barrel changes the angle of the ball's vector by much more than just the micrometer movement itself that happened. Less moving parts (such as the 1 moving part in a DM3) and more weight (such as the 3+ lbs DM3) helps lead to a stable shot platform. Of course when it comes to multi-shot accuracy (i.e. a "rope" of paint) this is even more applicable, but it does apply to a single shot as well.
3) Operating Pressure - This is the only one that is not easily proven fact, but personally I believe that the less stress the ball undergoes during the shot the less deformation that happens to it and not only less breaks but also better accuracy. I mean for god sakes if a higher pressure gun can literally break balls that a lower pressure gun wouldn't have then isn't it safe to assume it might dent one or two that a lower pressure gun would have left round?

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View PostNinjasEatPandas, on 24 October 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

AHHH THIS THREAD IS PISSING ME OFF I QUIT

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 09:44 PM

View PostNinjasEatPandas, on 21 September 2011 - 07:08 AM, said:

3 cookies to the creator of this thread, excellent write up :tup:

View PostBeGe, on 20 September 2011 - 11:02 PM, said:

View PostCookybiscuit, on 15 September 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

http://www.techpb.co...howtopic=152223 All guns have the same accuracy.


I keep hearing that but it's just plain not true. The myth started when the famous open bolt vs closed bolt test was performed which proved that closed bolt operation in the exact same circumstances as open bolt operation is no more or less accurate, which is perfectly true. But somehow that spun out of control into people saying that no gun is more accurate than any other.

1) Consistency - the consistency of the gun greatly affects Y-axis accuracy...I don't think I really need to explain why...this one should be a "doh" type realization.
2) Platform Stability - A shot is not a single moment in time, it is very short yes, but not instant. The smallest deviation in gun position from the time the paintball starts moving at the beginning of the barrel and the time it gets to the end of the barrel changes the angle of the ball's vector by much more than just the micrometer movement itself that happened. Less moving parts (such as the 1 moving part in a DM3) and more weight (such as the 3+ lbs DM3) helps lead to a stable shot platform. Of course when it comes to multi-shot accuracy (i.e. a "rope" of paint) this is even more applicable, but it does apply to a single shot as well.
3) Operating Pressure - This is the only one that is not easily proven fact, but personally I believe that the less stress the ball undergoes during the shot the less deformation that happens to it and not only less breaks but also better accuracy. I mean for god sakes if a higher pressure gun can literally break balls that a lower pressure gun wouldn't have then isn't it safe to assume it might dent one or two that a lower pressure gun would have left round?

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unless there is a better version of this thread somewhere shouldn't this thread be stickied ?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:09 AM

Which type of spool valve would a GoG Extcy have?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:13 AM

View Posturockalex, on 21 March 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

Which type of spool valve would a GoG Extcy have?

Blowforward spool valve just like the Ion.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

Aahhh necropost!

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^Sad part is, your little... Disruptive Barrels are the quietest beating out a Lucky one by .02 Decibels. :P

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:57 PM

What is a G4? A spool or Poppet? What type of Spool or Poppet? Is it like the G3? Thanks.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:28 PM

View Posturockalex, on 21 March 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

What is a G4? A spool or Poppet? What type of Spool or Poppet? Is it like the G3? Thanks.

Perhaps this will help: http://www.techpb.co...&st=0&p=3070723

Add to that:
Poppet
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Spool
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Stacket Tube Spool
J4 Torque

This post has been edited by unfated33: 21 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

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