[MrSandwich]

I find it highly improbable that one could die from losing an eye unless they just said "oh well no bother" and went about their lives

[Iram]

Does anyone know if there's been nay discussion among industry leaders (PSP, Dye, SP, JT, etc.) about how to stop thinks like this?

cheesecakeinyourfacehole, on Mar 7 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

I seen a video on utube and these teen did a drive by shooting with a paintball marker and kill two people because they had hit them in there unprotected eyes

Sounds like bullshit.

There have been people shot in the eye who even retained partial vision in that eye (after many surgeries). It's not likely to be fatal.

This post has been edited by Iram: 08 March 2009 - 06:28 AM

[Evil Fingers]

cheesecakeinyourfacehole, on Mar 7 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

I seen a video on utube and these teen did a drive by shooting with a paintball marker and kill two people because they had hit them in there unprotected eyes

Are you referring to the video below, if so, the incident occured back in late 2004 in one of the neighboring cities of Oakland, Ca. and it made Headline News all over the US when the video was first aired.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wZZ9PpXFHjQ

This post has been edited by Evil Fingers: 08 March 2009 - 07:06 AM

[Iram]

Evil Fingers, on Mar 8 2009, 07:02 AM, said:

cheesecakeinyourfacehole, on Mar 7 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

I seen a video on utube and these teen did a drive by shooting with a paintball marker and kill two people because they had hit them in there unprotected eyes

Are you referring to the video below, if so, the incident occured back in late 2004 in one of the neighboring cities of Oakland, Ca. and it made Headline News all over the US when the video was first aired.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wZZ9PpXFHjQ

And right at the end, "no one was severly injured". Hope those kids got to spend a long time in a small room with a guy named "Bubba".

[Evil Fingers]

Iram, on Mar 8 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

Evil Fingers, on Mar 8 2009, 07:02 AM, said:

cheesecakeinyourfacehole, on Mar 7 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

I seen a video on utube and these teen did a drive by shooting with a paintball marker and kill two people because they had hit them in there unprotected eyes

Are you referring to the video below, if so, the incident occured back in late 2004 in one of the neighboring cities of Oakland, Ca. and it made Headline News all over the US when the video was first aired.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wZZ9PpXFHjQ

And right at the end, "no one was severly injured". Hope those kids got to spend a long time in a small room with a guy named "Bubba".

Each one got 4 years, but I doubt they actually did the 4 years, since Good Behavior would get them out sooner.

This post has been edited by Evil Fingers: 08 March 2009 - 10:59 AM

[Tmaned]

sticktodrum, on Mar 7 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

entertaining thought:

"15 injured today in what's believed to be the worst soccer ball assault in this town's recent history. a group of teens drove around several neighborhoods last night throwing soccer balls at residents of Jasper County, GA. police are trying to trace the soccer balls, but unfortunately, the local Sports Authority and Wal-Mart had recently dropped their stocks of all sports equipment except for paintball guns. aside from the discomfort incurred by pedestrians unfortunate enough to be walking the streets at this time, several houses have been irreparably damaged by the balls. some say they spent an entire day looking for balls that have bounced off walls and disppeared into bushes.

estimated property damage has reached $34,000, and is expected to climb as more money is spent reporting on this, and similar events to placate the useless trash that feed off of this type of news."

give it time... it'll happen.

Notice how no one is calling soccer players vandals or trying to get public use of a soccer ball banned in the town?

"15 injured today in what's believed to be the worst soccer ball assault in this town's recent history." Worst in recent history? There's been others? Lol.

This post has been edited by Tmaned: 09 March 2009 - 02:50 AM

[BenBode]

Here in germany we have much more restrictive laws.
1. Pb guns are only legal to use in designated paintball areas, while transport to the field it must be disassembled and looked up in a Box, otherwise one will face the same consiquenses as one carrieing a "real" gun in public.
2. You have to be 18yr or older to buy, own or use a Pb gun. I think that helps alot
3. Most of the kids using a paintballgun for vandalism get caught by the poilce and have to face the consiquenses of carrieing a gun in public (which is illegal)

This post has been edited by BenBode: 17 July 2009 - 01:36 AM

[Murd0ck]

Those stats don't surprise me. I have had my car, my mothers car, her house, neighbors homes and cars shot up by paintball guns. I even knew a girl whose grandmother got shot a ton while she was sitting at a bus stop.

There are a lot of idiots in this sport, and the idiots enable each other to be tools. If one of these guys went outside at 5am to go to work and saw their grandmother weeping, bloodied, and full of paint splatters they would be furious. If they got back from a business trip only to find their car, and their mothers car shot to hell in front of her home where you kept your car while you were away, they would be furious.

There doesn't need to be more legislation, there needs to be more education and a stronger hand in dealing with convictions of vandalism and assaults related to paintball related incidents. If we want the government to "protect" us from everything, we will not have ANY freedoms with these constant, imo un-patriotic legislations passed against an individuals behavior. Punish the crime and criminals, sure, but legislating peoples actions before they do anything is getting a bit much. Let people make decisions, and if they result in bad reactions, hold them accountable.

[Darce64]

god help us

[StandingCow]

Murd0ck, on Mar 16 2009, 12:25 AM, said:

Those stats don't surprise me. I have had my car, my mothers car, her house, neighbors homes and cars shot up by paintball guns. I even knew a girl whose grandmother got shot a ton while she was sitting at a bus stop.

There are a lot of idiots in this sport, and the idiots enable each other to be tools. If one of these guys went outside at 5am to go to work and saw their grandmother weeping, bloodied, and full of paint splatters they would be furious. If they got back from a business trip only to find their car, and their mothers car shot to hell in front of her home where you kept your car while you were away, they would be furious.

There doesn't need to be more legislation, there needs to be more education and a stronger hand in dealing with convictions of vandalism and assaults related to paintball related incidents. If we want the government to "protect" us from everything, we will not have ANY freedoms with these constant, imo un-patriotic legislations passed against an individuals behavior. Punish the crime and criminals, sure, but legislating peoples actions before they do anything is getting a bit much. Let people make decisions, and if they result in bad reactions, hold them accountable.

Well said.

[Jon Eering]

I just read through the whole thread and the only thing I can think of is: Why not have prohibition? Use it only at a field or there could be serious consequences. However you look at it prohibition causes a demand and would not only cause the sport to grow because of the demand, but would cause it to have a less hostile face to the public.

This would cause a problem for field owners though. Maybe you would need a paintball license to own one, but not operate one- like renting.

I'm really interested to see others views on this.

[Iram]

Jon Eering, on Mar 17 2009, 03:21 AM, said:

I just read through the whole thread and the only thing I can think of is: Why not have prohibition? Use it only at a field or there could be serious consequences. However you look at it prohibition causes a demand and would not only cause the sport to grow because of the demand, but would cause it to have a less hostile face to the public.

This would cause a problem for field owners though. Maybe you would need a paintball license to own one, but not operate one- like renting.

I'm really interested to see others views on this.

Prohibition was a ban on alcohol, and addictive substance that has become the cornerstone of adult life in this country, and can be made my anyone with a few simple tools. Paintball is an expensive sport that requires incredably expensive, specialized encapsulation machines to make the consumables (paintball) needed to play, not to mention compressors, markers, lenses, etc.

If paintball is banned, RPS isn't going to keep making paintballs; they are too big of a target, and a very obvious one. Same goes for the rest of the paintball manufacturers. You're not going to be able to make "moonshine" paintballs yourself, and people, sane people at least, aren't going to risk serious jail time just to play a game.

[Jon Eering]

Iram, on Mar 17 2009, 04:32 AM, said:

Jon Eering, on Mar 17 2009, 03:21 AM, said:

I just read through the whole thread and the only thing I can think of is: Why not have prohibition? Use it only at a field or there could be serious consequences. However you look at it prohibition causes a demand and would not only cause the sport to grow because of the demand, but would cause it to have a less hostile face to the public.

This would cause a problem for field owners though. Maybe you would need a paintball license to own one, but not operate one- like renting.

I'm really interested to see others views on this.

Prohibition was a ban on alcohol, and addictive substance that has become the cornerstone of adult life in this country, and can be made my anyone with a few simple tools. Paintball is an expensive sport that requires incredably expensive, specialized encapsulation machines to make the consumables (paintball) needed to play, not to mention compressors, markers, lenses, etc.

If paintball is banned, RPS isn't going to keep making paintballs; they are too big of a target, and a very obvious one. Same goes for the rest of the paintball manufacturers. You're not going to be able to make "moonshine" paintballs yourself, and people, sane people at least, aren't going to risk serious jail time just to play a game.

I think you missed my point, I am not proposing a complete ban on paintball, but some regulation. Treat it like a real firearm by needing a license to own one.

Maybe I shouldn't have used prohibition to describe it, regulations = good non aggressive word?

[sticktodrum]

that is a very foolish idea. by that logic, there should be requisites of permits for baseball bats.

[Iram]

Deleting this post before we start going too far off topic.

This post has been edited by Iram: 17 March 2009 - 05:03 PM

[Steadyhigh]

me and 4 buddys were in a van smokein a joint after practice..so we all had our gear and what not..air..paint..everything you need to fuck shit up...all of a sudden you hear a splat on the window..i look out and tehre is some kids shooting at us from there car with some lil shit gun..they wernt painballers....but it was funny casue we were in the car with like madd gear..we could ahve just lit them all the fuck up..we watched them shoot for a few seconds..and then my buddy just freaked casue we wouldnnt let him shoot back..so he grabed some tool he had in the van and just booked it at the kids and they took off so fast.....but we could have just destroyed there lil cavlier..but we didnt casue were not stupid..but he did try n end there lives with a crazy tool for takein dents outta cars

oh with his mask of course. they stoped shootin as soon as he started runin anways..

This post has been edited by Steadyhigh: 17 March 2009 - 06:11 PM

[Mephisto]

i say we round up all the retards vandalizing cities and allowing the people that they have harmed (paintball players included) to lite them up with a few hundred thousand monsterballs? anyone agree?

This post has been edited by Mephisto: 19 March 2009 - 09:16 PM

[Evil Fingers]

Jon Eering, on Mar 17 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

Treat it like a real firearm by needing a license to own one.

If and when that happens...Paintballing as we know it will cease to exist as a Rec Sport.

[_ORaNGe_FLaMeS_]

Romeo, on Mar 5 2009, 05:17 PM, said:

I really doubt just stopping Walmart from selling paintball supplies will in turn reduce paintball vandalism. Any run of the mill guy can purchase paintball gear from the various internet sites and proshops all around. If people want to vandalize something they will; its just a shame that they use paintball guns as a means to vandalize.

Ummm, I know that Wal-Mart and in the case of Canada, Canadian Tire (and Wal Mart too) not selling paintball gear won't stop vandalism but it would definately drop the amount that happens. Lets face it, yes they can buy guns at local stores, the internet, blah blah, but lets face it how many of these punk vandals go out of their way to buy this stuff? or use a credit card to buy online and wait for shipping? Most of these guys are walking through walmart bored, then see paintball guns for 60 bucks and figure "hey, what the hell, its cheap and this will be fun" then they grab a case of monster balls and they're on their marry way.

Now what pisses me off is what Mike said about all the signs and such being shot up on the way to PSP pheonix that pisses me off. These are competitive players who know the effect this has on the sport and are too ignorant to care, let alone when it's on it's way to a major league event. Things like this just make people in the area think "great, the paintballers are coming to town everything is gonna get shot up." Plain and simple, team captains or coaches should tell their players when they first join the team that if hey go shooting shit up in public flat out they're off the team and the police will be informed.

[patrick1]

yeah my girlfriends co workers boyfriend got in trouble for shooting 172 houses. he got caught and now he is being charged with 172 counts of propety damamage. im glad he got caught. people like that make me sick.