[Nicholai]

Is this possible, what do u guys think??

Any other materials that might work??


Just thinking outloud here.

[R-M-I]

Hmm...what would the advantage be?

[y2ksurvivor]

Yeah I'm just not seeing the point?

[Nicholai]

I'm just sick of using cheap plastic. I still feel the loader is the weakest link here....

[R-M-I]

How about carbon-fibre(durable and lightweight) or fibre-glass(durable but not exactly the lightes material on earth)?

[Christopher]

Delrin is not very shock reistant. It's decent, but nothing special.

[Nicholai]

yeah I heard of someone making a carbon fiber shell, and he said it was too prone to cracks etc. I thought that would be a sick idea too. I found this on docs website, pretty funny:



link here:

http://www.the-white.../autowb066.html


P.S. you really don't think that delrin would be any stronger then what they are using now?? Also it could be pretty cool to have some things milled into the side of the shell if it was made thick (I would sacrafise light weight for durability).

[STEED]

Delrin is not strong, it's actually pretty weak, the benefit to delrin is that it's self lubricating and lightweight compared to aluminum. If you want to build a strong shell you want graphite composites that Glocks are made from, but it would look ugly as sin.

[Christopher]

Nicholai, on Oct 19 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

yeah I heard of someone making a carbon fiber shell, and he said it was too prone to cracks etc. I thought that would be a sick idea too. I found this on docs website, pretty funny:



link here:

http://www.the-white.../autowb066.html


P.S. you really don't think that delrin would be any stronger then what they are using now?? Also it could be pretty cool to have some things milled into the side of the shell if it was made thick (I would sacrafise light weight for durability).

There are a bunch of different kinds of plastics being used now. For example, the old Revvy shells were amazing, but ever since they switched to the newer version they are much more prone to breakage. The "old stuff" used was practicality indestructible.

It might be more shock resistant than some plastics we are currently using, but if it's still as thin as most modern hoppers are, I don't think it would hold up better by a large margin. You could make it thicker, like you said, but you might actually be able to save weight by using thin aluminium rather than thick plastic.

[Nicholai]

Has anyone seen an aluminum shell??

I have used TONS of old revys, and they steel feel cheap as hell. And it seemed like only the black shells were strong, all the clear and smoke ones I have used got brittle and the feedneck broke.

I would go with a graphite composite shell! If it's ugly you can just do what SPO does and cover the plastic with..... I think it's a car paint job?? Can't remember now, but the SPO shells look great.

[.Fred]

For the feedneck weakness, what would you guy think of a metal feedneck that is also the bottom plate of the hopper. And the top is plastic to make it lighter?

when i say metal i say aluminum or something lighter.

[Nicholai]

I think that sounds like a great idea! Like how the jrny has the replaceable feedtube, but just make it out of aluminum....

[R-M-I]

Aluminum-alloy of some kind could possibly be used...But aluminum itself isn't all that sturdy either... It bends easily if it isn't "tampered" with

[Paintballwizzkid]

the delrin would be a problem because of the lubrication in it, meaning the balls would get lube on, which means bad accuracy, but the compositwe material would be goo, but heavy

[Violent]

If I'm not mistaking delrin is more expensive isn't it?

[STEED]

Paintballwizzkid, on Oct 21 2008, 12:44 PM, said:

the delrin would be a problem because of the lubrication in it, meaning the balls would get lube on, which means bad accuracy, but the compositwe material would be goo, but heavy

Self Lubricating doesn't mean it has lube in it, it means the surface resists friction, there isn't oil made into the part.

The fix for most feed neck issues is just better design and engineering, the materials are strong enough but have to engineered better then what they have been.

[Scheele]

The torque shells are very durable and light. They are made from ABS plastic that is also really easy to repair is there is a crack.

[Scheele]

Accidental double post. Sorry.

[Sin]

Nicholai, on Oct 19 2008, 10:11 AM, said:

I'm just sick of using cheap plastic. I still feel the loader is the weakest link here....

At that thickness, Delrin would be no different. Polycarbonate is more flexible than Delrin and not as easy to scratch.

[shadowsniper11]

fiberglass reinforce polycarbonate. like what is on the G36 but it would have to be black.

or polycarbonate with a nice coating and a thicker shell