[cockerpunk]

Discuss the Results of the PunkWorks compression testing.

video - http://www.youtube.c...h?v=dbZEutYU8No

data sheet - http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pym...HdSUqJufMjmLEUA

this is the first release of data, as the conversion continues we will release more of the data collected.

This post has been edited by cockerpunk: 23 January 2009 - 10:55 PM

[WihGlah]

first!!

[cockerpunk]

WihGlah, on Jan 16 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

first!!

i hadn't seen you around for a while - though we had lost you. nice to see your still around!

needed to make the thread in order to have the link for the video info bar, hence why this thread is here.

[WihGlah]

I've been waiting for these results!

[Protoboy]

Sweet video, very interessting..

[maximumslinky]

is this it for the compression testing or will you be comparing different brands of paint in the future?

[cockerpunk]

maximumslinky, on Jan 16 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

is this it for the compression testing or will you be comparing different brands of paint in the future?

there are 5 different grades compared.

[Lord Odin]

cockerpunk, on Jan 16 2009, 04:33 PM, said:

maximumslinky, on Jan 16 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

is this it for the compression testing or will you be comparing different brands of paint in the future?

there are 5 different grades compared.

Very cool stuff.

According to ProCaps' website, there are only 3 grades; Tourney, Value, and Winter. I'm quite surprised that the Triumph (value) is stronger than the Frostbite (winter).

Can you guys now measure the thickness of the shells to see if there is a relationship between shell thickness and compression strength?

[cockerpunk]

Lord Odin, on Jan 16 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

cockerpunk, on Jan 16 2009, 04:33 PM, said:

maximumslinky, on Jan 16 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

is this it for the compression testing or will you be comparing different brands of paint in the future?

there are 5 different grades compared.

Very cool stuff.

According to ProCaps' website, there are only 3 grades; Tourney, Value, and Winter. I'm quite surprised that the Triumph (value) is stronger than the Frostbite (winter).

Can you guys now measure the thickness of the shells to see if there is a relationship between shell thickness and compression strength?

i can do that if you want to see it

[Lord Odin]

I think that would be sweet. I would have assumed that the Frostbite would have a thicker shell to handle the winter temperatures and also would have assumed that they were stronger as well. I think that test would confirm or deny those assumptions.

[brycelarson]

Lord Odin, on Jan 16 2009, 05:39 PM, said:

I think that would be sweet. I would have assumed that the Frostbite would have a thicker shell to handle the winter temperatures and also would have assumed that they were stronger as well. I think that test would confirm or deny those assumptions.

based on the fact that the winter paint changed less from room temp to cold - there's going to be a formulation change that might be more important than the thickness.

as Gordon said on the phone this afternoon while we were talking about these results - it's starting to look like the paint manufacturers are the smartest people in the industry

[maximumslinky]

cockerpunk, on Jan 16 2009, 05:33 PM, said:

maximumslinky, on Jan 16 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

is this it for the compression testing or will you be comparing different brands of paint in the future?

there are 5 different grades compared.

i saw the video test and results. i was just curious if you were gonna compare like different brands of tournament rec and winter paint, like to see the difference between the brands. im not trying to tell you that you should im just wondering if that was your plan

[RubberCoconut]

great tests !!!!!!!!

interesting how similar silver is to gold

[Troy]

I thought you were going to compare paint stored differently *single tear*

[cockerpunk]

Troy, on Jan 16 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

I thought you were going to compare paint stored differently *single tear*

we did. ill release that data in a bit.

bryce, i didn't release the temp test data either, keep your trap shut!

we are not product testers, so we wont be comparing brands. we are more looking at paintballs as a whole here and how exactly they perform, rather then comparing brands and how they perform.

[Lord Odin]

cockerpunk, on Jan 16 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

Troy, on Jan 16 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

I thought you were going to compare paint stored differently *single tear*

we did. ill release that data in a bit.

bryce, i didn't release the temp test data either, keep your trap shut!

we are not product testers, so we wont be comparing brands. we are more looking at paintballs as a whole here and how exactly they perform, rather then comparing brands and how they perform.

You're holding out on us? C'mon!

I thought this was the whole test. Can't wait to see the rest of it.

[cockerpunk]

Lord Odin, on Jan 16 2009, 09:42 PM, said:

cockerpunk, on Jan 16 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

Troy, on Jan 16 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

I thought you were going to compare paint stored differently *single tear*

we did. ill release that data in a bit.

bryce, i didn't release the temp test data either, keep your trap shut!

we are not product testers, so we wont be comparing brands. we are more looking at paintballs as a whole here and how exactly they perform, rather then comparing brands and how they perform.

You're holding out on us? C'mon!

I thought this was the whole test. Can't wait to see the rest of it.

the key to seeing the rest is for someone to make conclusions based on the data, to analyze it.

[brycelarson]

yup, we've got more stuff - but we are still talking and thinking about it. We're often trying to decide how to best present data, how to sort and present it.

[cockerpunk]

brycelarson, on Jan 16 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

yup, we've got more stuff - but we are still talking and thinking about it. We're often trying to decide how to best present data, how to sort and present it.

yup

added the thinknesses, beware tho, those are not rock solid numbers, so be careful using them to precisely.

[Lord Odin]

How many balls of each type and total were used in this test? Just curious about this.

Just so I'm not making wrong assumptions, could you please explain what the Vmean, Hmean, and Vmean/Hmean are?

I'm trying to hold off on making conclusions until I know what I'm looking at.

This post has been edited by Lord Odin: 16 January 2009 - 09:34 PM