[TK-421]

HeroForADay, on 05 February 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

All of you who won't support red bull because they didn't want to support a small event they know nothing about, you people have no business sense. Straight up.

Why in the hell would a company sponsor an event at a whim, with no real knowledge of who they are ACTUALLY sponsoring, why they are sponsoring them, where the money is going and so on. Red bull is a business, and a god damn smart media company if you've watched some of their productions. Their response is not to say "we are never ever going to sponsor paintball, so feck off". You need to read it as, "we're not sponsoring this because we know nothing about it".

First off, any of you who think you go and blatantly ask for sponsor money, you have no idea how sponsorship works. It isn't some one sided deal, it's a mutual agreement of why you can do for them, and they will do for you. This 'request' is terrible at achieving that. Not only is it poorly written, but it creates no basis for any of the reasoning behind the request. It's a stupid, and overly simple request based off of heart strings.

Gib us moniez, it's for gud cause.

If you want professional relationships, act the part.

Agreed.

If you want to be taken seriously, and want to have sponsors for your events, you need to put a hell of a lot more time and effort into your request than what is in that e-mail. You need specific times, dates, what it is, why it is, what it's for, who it's helping, what percentage of the funds raised those people are getting, and tons of other info like that. On top of that, you also need to explain why it's a good idea for that company to sponsor you. What you can offer them in return for what they'll give you.

Sponsorships work both ways, it's not all gimme gimme gimme, you have to articulate what that company will get in return for their investment.

Anybody who is boycotting Redbull because some Joe Schmo can't bother to articulate his proposal well or actually put some effort into his request, and make himself appear to be reasonable or professional, then those people really need a swift kick in the butt and need to see how reality works.

[III Kezia III]

HeroForADay, on 05 February 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

All of you who won't support red bull because they didn't want to support a small event they know nothing about, you people have no business sense. Straight up.

Why in the hell would a company sponsor an event at a whim, with no real knowledge of who they are ACTUALLY sponsoring, why they are sponsoring them, where the money is going and so on. Red bull is a business, and a god damn smart media company if you've watched some of their productions. Their response is not to say "we are never ever going to sponsor paintball, so feck off". You need to read it as, "we're not sponsoring this because we know nothing about it".

First off, any of you who think you go and blatantly ask for sponsor money, you have no idea how sponsorship works. It isn't some one sided deal, it's a mutual agreement of why you can do for them, and they will do for you. This 'request' is terrible at achieving that. Not only is it poorly written, but it creates no basis for any of the reasoning behind the request. It's a stupid, and overly simple request based off of heart strings.

Gib us moniez, it's for gud cause.

If you want professional relationships, act the part.

Couldn't have said it better myself, the email does seem very unprofessional. Sponsorship requests are like resumes. Im sure they only look at it for about 15 secs or less and if it looks that unprofessional, why would they give you the time of day?

[Orange Chicken]

We got gatorade to sponsor us last year, as well as monster this one. Not sure why redbull wouldnt care. Thats right, paintballs image is the one with people running around in the woods shooting at each other. But I dont wanna bring up my whole: changing the image of paintball to speedball arguement.

[ooosjuice]

So where is the profit in having a guy jump from space? How many people really logged on their computer to watch it? Just doesn't make sense to me how they can't support a paintball benefit for firefighters but will dump a ton of money into a space jump that nobody even knows happened.

[TK-421]

ooosjuice, on 06 February 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:

So where is the profit in having a guy jump from space? How many people really logged on their computer to watch it? Just doesn't make sense to me how they can't support a paintball benefit for firefighters but will dump a ton of money into a space jump that nobody even knows happened.

MILLIONS of people know the space jump happened, it was big news in every major news program I watch. It is huge news, because he made a world record. I'm pretty sure that that will be in Guinness, which is awesome publicity. That, and I'm sure they got a very well worded sponsorship request. The sponsorship request that was given in the OP is equivalent to a four year old scribbling with crayon. If you want to get sponsored, present yourself as a mature adult, not a four year old with a crayon.

[LV Backpacker]

TK-421, on 07 February 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

ooosjuice, on 06 February 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:

So where is the profit in having a guy jump from space? How many people really logged on their computer to watch it? Just doesn't make sense to me how they can't support a paintball benefit for firefighters but will dump a ton of money into a space jump that nobody even knows happened.

MILLIONS of people know the space jump happened, it was big news in every major news program I watch. It is huge news, because he made a world record. I'm pretty sure that that will be in Guinness, which is awesome publicity. That, and I'm sure they got a very well worded sponsorship request. The sponsorship request that was given in the OP is equivalent to a four year old scribbling with crayon. If you want to get sponsored, present yourself as a mature adult, not a four year old with a crayon.

I kinda want to sig that.

[III Kezia III]

Orange Chicken, on 06 February 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

We got gatorade to sponsor us last year, as well as monster this one. Not sure why redbull wouldnt care. Thats right, paintballs image is the one with people running around in the woods shooting at each other. But I dont wanna bring up my whole: changing the image of paintball to speedball arguement.

are you dense?

[Syrellaris]

TK-421, on 07 February 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

ooosjuice, on 06 February 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:

So where is the profit in having a guy jump from space? How many people really logged on their computer to watch it? Just doesn't make sense to me how they can't support a paintball benefit for firefighters but will dump a ton of money into a space jump that nobody even knows happened.

MILLIONS of people know the space jump happened, it was big news in every major news program I watch. It is huge news, because he made a world record. I'm pretty sure that that will be in Guinness, which is awesome publicity. That, and I'm sure they got a very well worded sponsorship request. The sponsorship request that was given in the OP is equivalent to a four year old scribbling with crayon. If you want to get sponsored, present yourself as a mature adult, not a four year old with a crayon.

Thing is, that space jump would not have been so known or even happened at all if red bull didn't sponsor them. But you're right though, they probably asked for a sponsorship in a much better form then the OP.

[TK-421]

Syrellaris, on 07 February 2013 - 10:19 PM, said:

Thing is, that space jump would not have been so known or even happened at all if red bull didn't sponsor them. But you're right though, they probably asked for a sponsorship in a much better form then the OP.

I highly doubt that would've been the case. I'm pretty sure somebody else would've been more than willing to fund the jump if Red Bull had said no.

[III Kezia III]

TK-421, on 07 February 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Syrellaris, on 07 February 2013 - 10:19 PM, said:

Thing is, that space jump would not have been so known or even happened at all if red bull didn't sponsor them. But you're right though, they probably asked for a sponsorship in a much better form then the OP.

I highly doubt that would've been the case. I'm pretty sure somebody else would've been more than willing to fund the jump if Red Bull had said no.

No doubt about it. you would have your company forever branded with that jump, I'm sure they asked Redbull first because they are more known for that type of stuff, yes monster has a bunch of extreme or motor sport events etc. but it's kinda redbull's flagship status of extreme.

[madsnipes]

III Kezia III, on 07 February 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

TK-421, on 07 February 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Syrellaris, on 07 February 2013 - 10:19 PM, said:

Thing is, that space jump would not have been so known or even happened at all if red bull didn't sponsor them. But you're right though, they probably asked for a sponsorship in a much better form then the OP.

I highly doubt that would've been the case. I'm pretty sure somebody else would've been more than willing to fund the jump if Red Bull had said no.

No doubt about it. you would have your company forever branded with that jump, I'm sure they asked Redbull first because they are more known for that type of stuff, yes monster has a bunch of extreme or motor sport events etc. but it's kinda redbull's flagship status of extreme.

like crashed ice and stuff like that

[Tusken Raider]

And writing a resume can be hard. Explaining to a company why they should spend money on you takes a lot more than a few sentences. Not a great reason to boycott a company because they turn a person or group down. Everything is about money especially now. Give them the why of why they should take a risk. And I agree, paintball is not a multi-million dollar maker for a sponsor unless they are already in the industry.

Where I work, they offer classes to do resumes, how to interview for jobs, and how to do interviews. The ways you can write are numerous. A resume gets their attention, but when the contact you back, that is the interview.

But above all, do not give up, keep trying.

[spqr-king]

OP has nothing to do with that email he just reposted what he saw online lol I hope to be more articulate then a 7 year old...

[recreationalpb]

I pose this question to you. What paintball guns do you own? company and model. (after you answer this i will make my argument).

[Orange Chicken]

recreationalpb, on 09 February 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

I pose this question to you. What paintball guns do you own? company and model. (after you answer this i will make my argument).

Why would it matter

[TK-421]

recreationalpb, on 09 February 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

I pose this question to you. What paintball guns do you own? company and model. (after you answer this i will make my argument).

[BraiNfreeZe]

What happend to when they had NPPL in tampa, at the Raymond James stadium and they were passing out free cans of monster,bawls, and red bull?

[recreationalpb]

well here's my point. lets say for example you own a dm13. You have chosen to support Dye. You also own some Planet Eclipse grease, a Sly Profit mask and a Ninja tank. Well, Why don't you buy Empire gear? They are a legit company, they support the sport, they are nice people how could you NOT buy something that they sell? This is the same thing as Red Bull just on a personal scale. They have to draw the line somewhere and unfortunately paintball didn't make the cut. Same with Empire in the example.

[Tyger]

Orange Chicken, on 06 February 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

We got gatorade to sponsor us last year, as well as monster this one. Not sure why redbull wouldnt care. Thats right, paintballs image is the one with people running around in the woods shooting at each other.

That's not valid, because Redbull sponsors HALO tournaments. (http://www.redbull.c...001242983986415) So they have no problem backing battle simulations. I think the answer is a LOT more basic than that, and it's the same reason paintball has been a hands-off sport for most large corporations.

We have a bad reputation, and the sport is doing nothing to stop it.

-Tyger

[TK-421]

Tyger, on 12 February 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

Orange Chicken, on 06 February 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

We got gatorade to sponsor us last year, as well as monster this one. Not sure why redbull wouldnt care. Thats right, paintballs image is the one with people running around in the woods shooting at each other.

That's not valid, because Redbull sponsors HALO tournaments. (http://www.redbull.c...001242983986415) So they have no problem backing battle simulations. I think the answer is a LOT more basic than that, and it's the same reason paintball has been a hands-off sport for most large corporations.

We have a bad reputation, and the sport is doing nothing to stop it.

-Tyger

Do you think it has more to do with the lack of a professional request, and less to do with the sport itself?

What Red Bull expects for sponsor requests: "Good day sir or madam, I am in the stages of putting together a paintball event to help raise funds for a fallen firefighter foundation, and I was wondering if you would be interested in providing us with a sponsorship?" Then you go on to explain exactly what the foundation is, what it does, who it helps, how much money you hope to raise for them. And after that, you include what you want from Red Bull, why you want their help, and what they can expect in return for helping you.

What Red Bull got: "Hi guyz, i iz making a coolz paintball thing for a fallen firefighter foundation, can you givez me moniez now?"

I honestly believe the person who sent the e-mail would have gotten a totally different response if he had actually been professional in his request.