[Kyyyyyyy]

Id like the pros and cons to each. I currently own a v1 prophecy but it has reached the end of its days so i figured it get a z2 cause i love my prophecy. But then someone told me to go with the spire so here i am asking all you guys for pros and cons of each. thanks

[Squirt]

i love my spire i prefer it over my z2 because its faster to take apart, simple. batteries last long and its never jams. the z2 is nice but ive had problems with mine and my z2 is now my backup.

[Kyyyyyyy]

Squirt, on 14 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

i love my spire i prefer it over my z2 because its faster to take apart, simple. batteries last long and its never jams. the z2 is nice but ive had problems with mine and my z2 is now my backup.

how is it on brittle paint?

[Twistedfreak]

Spire

[Paintball48]

You can only use the virtue crown on the spire so I would say the z2

[SynystrAssassin]

You can mod the Spire to use the HK Epic.

[maximumslinky]

Paintball48, on 14 October 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

You can only use the virtue crown on the spire so I would say the z2

i promise other companies will come out with spire speedfeeds. that is no reason to take one hopper over another. i have the crown on my spire and it works fine.

[SamBo]

Spire. Easier to take apart.

[slipknot414]

Spire>Prophecy

But personally i'd take a rotor.

[TaFF]

Supposedly the spire is sound activated which can be a pain in the ass

[maximumslinky]

TaFF, on 15 October 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Supposedly the spire is sound activated which can be a pain in the ass

for the last time, it is NOT sound activated.

[Tick]

The z2 is sound activated, the spire is activated by the G-Force of the paintball.

[TaFF]

maximumslinky, on 15 October 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

TaFF, on 15 October 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Supposedly the spire is sound activated which can be a pain in the ass

Oopsie

for the last time, it is NOT sound activated.

[gamefreak054]

Personally I might go with the spire if I were to buy a loader again. Some people have pointed out that theyve had some QC issues with the z2. Quite honestly though I am pretty happy with the Z2 (its what I used), ive never had any problems but my fields D2 team absolutely hates them because of the experience they had with them. It might have been a earlier batch that had the problems though (but I bought mine right when it was released).

So I dont know, some of what people have been telling me scares me a bit a bout my z2. Maybe im just being paranoid or maybe Im just lucky I got one without problems.

[maximumslinky]

my z2 i bought last year didnt work out of the box.

[Jawz]

Z2, I think the spire looks like shit. This is coming from a guy who had his Z2 catch fire, I still like Z2's more. They are really convenient in my opinion, a solid platform, good looking, tooless disassembly (which for cleaning is fine I really see no reason to COMPLETELY disassemble your Z2 with the exception of "getting to know it, or not wanting to send it to customer service for any reason), and helps on those cold days where roasting marshmallows is a necessity. Yes I've used a spire.

[gamefreak054]

Jawz, on 15 October 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Z2, I think the spire looks like shit. This is coming from a guy who had his Z2 catch fire, I still like Z2's more. They are really convenient in my opinion, a solid platform, good looking, tooless disassembly (which for cleaning is fine I really see no reason to COMPLETELY disassemble your Z2 with the exception of "getting to know it, or not wanting to send it to customer service for any reason), and helps on those cold days where roasting marshmallows is a necessity. Yes I've used a spire.

Wtf happend?

I should probably go trade mine off soon. The problem with the spire is that it looks like a speed boat.

[Jawz]

gamefreak054, on 15 October 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

Jawz, on 15 October 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Z2, I think the spire looks like shit. This is coming from a guy who had his Z2 catch fire, I still like Z2's more. They are really convenient in my opinion, a solid platform, good looking, tooless disassembly (which for cleaning is fine I really see no reason to COMPLETELY disassemble your Z2 with the exception of "getting to know it, or not wanting to send it to customer service for any reason), and helps on those cold days where roasting marshmallows is a necessity. Yes I've used a spire.

Wtf happend?

I should probably go trade mine off soon. The problem with the spire is that it looks like a speed boat.

I have no idea, I thought it shorted out but after looking at the board, and turning it on a again without it catching fire and having a small puff of smoke in my midst I gave the fuck up! Lol I really have no idea, I'm actually sending it in, to a confused Empire rep, and am doing it disassembled (mostly because I accidently ripped a cord and broke a e-clip and can blame it on shipping SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH) and its a bitch. I'm pretty excited though maybe I'll get a free pod or something

[Squirt]

Kyyyyyyy, on 14 October 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

Squirt, on 14 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

i love my spire i prefer it over my z2 because its faster to take apart, simple. batteries last long and its never jams. the z2 is nice but ive had problems with mine and my z2 is now my backup.

how is it on brittle paint?

ive use GI 3 star that the most brittle ive used but i haven't broken a ball in the loader once.

Paintball48, on 14 October 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

You can only use the virtue crown on the spire so I would say the z2

other companies will come out with speed feed and virtue even said they'll be happy for other companies to make some.although the virtue crown sucks i cant wait until more come out for the spire.