[JJ GBR]

Kabar as in the pointy variety?

What marker are you using, i can recommend slings?

[Algae]

Don't own a vest. Never plan on owning a vest.

Nevertheless an awesome write up

[chadders]

JJ GBR, on 30 December 2010 - 01:25 PM, said:

Kabar as in the pointy variety?

What marker are you using, i can recommend slings?

ill be useing a woodstocked pump, about all i can realy tell atm, (moneys=tight so one idea maybe shelved)

[RealtorTommy]

Main reason I wear a vest is protection from sharp objects in the woods. I know my vest saved me from acouple hospital trips over the years.

[Mzee]

Another item to consider for all day scenarios is a small first aid kit. I carry some band aids of various sizes, in case of small cuts/scratches that can be dealt with in the field. An elastic bandage to wrap a sprained ankle, to help get me or someone else off the field and/or to continue play. A sanitary pad in case I need to stop some major bleeding until medical help arrives. Most events have qualified medical help available. I carry just enough to fix the little things or to buy some time on the major things until help arrives.

I usually take one on the rare occasion when I play at a local outlaw field. Never had to use it, but it might come in handy some day.

[Avid Gamer360]

Nice write up!
I wish this came out when i started playing! I wear a BT static best and it feels like a pod pack but more rigid. I feel bad for woods-ballers who don't see the potential in a decent vest.

[JJ GBR]

Mzee, on 03 January 2011 - 01:42 PM, said:

Another item to consider for all day scenarios is a small first aid kit.

Mmm, i've thought about this before. The way i see it, the only injuries requiring immediate treatment are life-threatening (small cuts etc can often wait). Massive blood loss is unlikely on the field, and if it does occur, then pressure's going on it with whatever i have to hand (probably my fist).

Sprains/broken limbs often require you just to get the person to the ambulance - a bandage is going to make little difference, and probably cause more pain than benefit. As for broken legs, i woudn't dream of moving the casualty, i would wait for the medics to get them out, and make them as comfy as possible in the meantime. If a sling is needed for a broken arm/collar bone, then i can easily enough improvise one with some clothing or gun sling.

The only serious threat i can think of is an anaphylactic reaction, but i can hardly go round sticking epipens into people - i can only ever help them administer their own (i'm a qualified lifeguard, and have a few other first aid quals as well). And also asthmatic attacks, but again it's no good my carrying round an inhaler, just in case.

I can understand the benefit of carrying one if you play at an outlaw field however, where no medical help other than yourselves is immediately available.

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Nice write up!
I wish this came out when i started playing! I wear a BT static best and it feels like a pod pack but more rigid. I feel bad for woods-ballers who don't see the potential in a decent vest.

Thanks, yeah i considering getting the static vest, though i thought it may limit me on the amount of pouches i could attach. I do like the way that everything is behind you though.

[Ice]

JJ GBR, on 09 January 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

Mzee, on 03 January 2011 - 01:42 PM, said:

Another item to consider for all day scenarios is a small first aid kit.

Mmm, i've thought about this before. The way i see it, the only injuries requiring immediate treatment are life-threatening (small cuts etc can often wait). Massive blood loss is unlikely on the field, and if it does occur, then pressure's going on it with whatever i have to hand (probably my fist).

Sprains/broken limbs often require you just to get the person to the ambulance - a bandage is going to make little difference, and probably cause more pain than benefit. As for broken legs, i woudn't dream of moving the casualty, i would wait for the medics to get them out, and make them as comfy as possible in the meantime. If a sling is needed for a broken arm/collar bone, then i can easily enough improvise one with some clothing or gun sling.

The only serious threat i can think of is an anaphylactic reaction, but i can hardly go round sticking epipens into people - i can only ever help them administer their own (i'm a qualified lifeguard, and have a few other first aid quals as well). And also asthmatic attacks, but again it's no good my carrying round an inhaler, just in case.

I can understand the benefit of carrying one if you play at an outlaw field however, where no medical help other than yourselves is immediately available.

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Nice write up!
I wish this came out when i started playing! I wear a BT static best and it feels like a pod pack but more rigid. I feel bad for woods-ballers who don't see the potential in a decent vest.

Thanks, yeah i considering getting the static vest, though i thought it may limit me on the amount of pouches i could attach. I do like the way that everything is behind you though.

People are bound to get a few scrapes. If you get a good bleeder, you need to put some antiseptic on it and wrap it so it doesn't get infected. Any paintball that breaks the skin should be treated with antiseptic too especially if you plan to continue playing (which you will unless you're a complete wuss). A little neosporin + a bandage to keep it clean will do you wonders. If an open wound gets dirty you're asking for a serious infection. But it's not like every player needs to have that stuff with them. IMO the refs should have it, and they do at the field I play at.

[JJ GBR]

Well it varies form person to person, but just because you have an open wound (especially a small one you will be able to play through), doeesn't mean an infection is inevitable. I do commend people who carry first aid kits though - however, i would never expect treatment for a non-serious wound off someone else, it would surprise me if someone offered.

[Ice]

JJ GBR, on 10 January 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

Well it varies form person to person, but just because you have an open wound (especially a small one you will be able to play through), doeesn't mean an infection is inevitable. I do commend people who carry first aid kits though - however, i would never expect treatment for a non-serious wound off someone else, it would surprise me if someone offered.

Agree. I'm not talking about little scrapes, just anything that bleeds and keeps bleeding. If it needs a scab to stop the bleeding, then it needs to be cleaned and have a bandage first. That's all.

Just a question for you guys... at my local field they have required that refs carry a small first aid kit. Do any other fields require that? I'd rather the ref carry it than players, because if you depend on players having a bandage who are you gonna call for when you get sliced? How do you know which players are carrying? Just makes more sense that you can call for a ref.

[JJ GBR]

All the refs at one of my field have to have first aid training, though i would put money on myself being trained to higher standard. I don't believe they carry first aid kits on the field though, but then we're never more than a km from the safe zone.

[chadders]

JJ GBR, on 11 January 2011 - 12:37 PM, said:

All the refs at one of my field have to have first aid training, though i would put money on myself being trained to higher standard. I don't believe they carry first aid kits on the field though, but then we're never more than a km from the safe zone.

every ref at mine has a first aid kit on them(just plasters that sorta thing you know) but it help re assues you

[ibeatu85x]

ya know, i think this should be a sticky.

[JJ GBR]

ibeatu85x, on 12 January 2011 - 01:53 AM, said:

ya know, i think this should be a sticky.

Thank you, very much sir.

[JJ GBR]

Bumping this to bring it to the attention of all those about to ask vest questions before LL4.

Mods, i wasn't going to ask, but could i please get a sticky on this?

[Blarg]

This needs to get stickied

[JJ GBR]

Blarg, on 16 January 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

This needs to get stickied

Damn straight bro.

[Mr.V]

anyone here heared about the SPM Liberec tactical vest for the czech army ?
I use it (besides my Low Profile Plate Carrier) a lot, because it has horizontal/vertical molle webbing (you can put your pouches in both directions without adapters)
it is a true mil grade equipment (costs are about 4000czk == 200usd) but it has lifetime warranty on it nad is truly a piece of gear you never need to replace.

http://www.spm-liber...e-xl-92210.html

This post has been edited by Mr.V: 26 January 2011 - 09:53 AM

[JJ GBR]

That's quite a cool system, though the spacing of the webbing looks like it could cause problems for some pouches - it looks like 1.5 inches vertical between each tier, as opposed to the normal 1 inch.

[Mr.V]

JJ GBR, on 27 January 2011 - 05:29 PM, said:

That's quite a cool system, though the spacing of the webbing looks like it could cause problems for some pouches - it looks like 1.5 inches vertical between each tier, as opposed to the normal 1 inch.

no problem with any pouches at all (besides it is used in afganistan for a loong time by our military), we use it a lot, with various pouches, original army made, chinese maid, RAP4 shitty pouches, etc.

it is really good for the prize (there are more expensive ones, with special threads) and are the next generation of such systems, but for 3 times the prize.

and a cool thing about it (beside that you can put real steel plates into it and it works well) - you can make a chest rig out of it easily (kind of cool :-).