[PaintballPassion]

Title says it all. If u have experience with it please leave a reply even if u just shot if a couple times. All thoughts are welcome

[Cookybiscuit]

Advantages- Needs no maintenance

Disadvantages- Heavy, 90% plastic, maintenance is a pain in the rear if you ever need to do it, might not like HPA depending on your luck, offset hopper, breaks paint constantly, unregulated, 0 efficiency, loud as shit etc.

Its a piece of crap. The SP1 is $25 and kicks its balls off.

[PaintballPassion]

Cookybiscuit, on 16 February 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Advantages- Needs no maintenance

Disadvantages- Heavy, 90% plastic, maintenance is a pain in the rear if you ever need to do it, might not like HPA depending on your luck, offset hopper, breaks paint constantly, unregulated, 0 efficiency, loud as shit etc.

Its a piece of crap. The SP1 is $25 and kicks its balls off.

What do you mean by not liking HPA? it uses a lot? or what? and whats wrong with an offset hopper? it makes room for a scope. The marker is made for scenario not xball so its obviously not gonna be perfect.

[Cookybiscuit]

Some Tippmanns based on the 98 platform just don't plain like HPA, they run at 800psi for a start, so if its cold, they're not going to work. Also some tanks don't output enough pressure for them to function, its entirely luck of the draw whether it will work in your situation or not, usually what happens is they sputter and need to be cocked manually after every couple of shots, but if you live in a hot climate I wouldn't worry too much. The 800psi operating pressure isn't helped by HPA's characteristics, with a C02 tank the pressure is a sustained until the liquid runs out, then your down to nothing. With a HPA tank once you drop below 800psi your gun will stop working, so you loose a good chunk of the air you could have used on a regulated gun that runs at say 200psi.

Offset hopper makes you massive target since you cant hide it and scopes are completely pointless. Tippmanns just don't stand up in this day and age when you can have any number of better guns for exactly the same price, if not less. I love Tippmann, my 3 main guns are Tippmanns, but I'd be the first to point out that they're a pile of crap and are basically either used as rental guns, project guns or for a joke.

Also don't forget that just because an xball gun is named as it is, you cant use it in the woods. Either way, the SP1 is less expensive and a scenario orientated gun. Sure its made of just as much plastic, but you get a gun that is about as quiet as guns ever get, more efficient, the certainty that it will work with any tank, far faster ROF due to being electronic and is no where near as bulky. There really is no reason what so ever to get a Sierra One (

[NJC]

PaintballPassion, on 16 February 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Cookybiscuit, on 16 February 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Advantages- Needs no maintenance

Disadvantages- Heavy, 90% plastic, maintenance is a pain in the rear if you ever need to do it, might not like HPA depending on your luck, offset hopper, breaks paint constantly, unregulated, 0 efficiency, loud as shit etc.

Its a piece of crap. The SP1 is $25 and kicks its balls off.

What do you mean by not liking HPA? it uses a lot? or what? and whats wrong with an offset hopper? it makes room for a scope. The marker is made for scenario not xball so its obviously not gonna be perfect.

oh boy. ok the offset hopper is bad. it means that if you want to shoot out the right side of your bunker then you have a lot more hopper exposed. it is very inefficient with a large chrono spread, and is quite loud. using a scope in paintball is normally quite counter-productive. unless you are using a FS rounds or a flatline/apex barrel, it will be very detrimental to your aiming as the ball's drop will render your scope useless at the range where a it could be useful, and in fact sights are quite useless at all in paintball. i have never had a problem using HPA with my sierra one/project salvo (yes i did have one this isn't just blind hate, but actual criticism) If you need to ever service that thing it is a huge pain in the ass as the gun splits in have and all the receiver pins, guide pin, sear, and springs go flying fucking everywhere.
then to your argument where it is made for scenario so it is inferior to 'speedball' guns. why do you want it if you know it is inferior to guns only slightly more expensive? in all honesty avoid tippmanns. don't fall into the 'it looks real it must be amazing' hype. it's all about the internals, and the salvo is the EXACT same as the 98 custom which raises the question, why spend the extra money for the same thing? there is zero change in performance from those markers. and about those 'upgrades' that will likely tempt tippmann users. that 4-500 dollars you might put into your tippmann will not make it any better than let's say, the proto rail which is $250. they will have similar efficiency, but the rail will have every other advantage on a sierra one. a sierra one will never be better than a proto rail no matter what upgrades you put into your tippmann. that cyclone feed? you can only use it on tippmanns and they are rather rough on paint where as a rotor, you can use on any marker with a half decent feedneck. that E-trigger? a low end 'xball' gun already has that and will have better electronics. that brings up another point, tippmann's electronics are not very good, my friend's A-5 is always breaking down due to the E trigger or cyclone feed fucking up.

for you TL;DR people. don't get the damn tippmann

[PaintballPassion]

Thanks for your thoughts, it just depends on what the the player's prefrences are if they want a scope or not. Personally, I hate regular sights so scopes are perfect. I'm actually thinking about getting a GoG G-1 off of Kijiji with some other gear so I was just making sure I could cross this marker off my list of fallback markers in case I don't buy the G-1

[Cookybiscuit]

NJC, on 16 February 2013 - 10:40 PM, said:

i have never had a problem using HPA with my sierra one/project salvo

Just want to say it might largely depend on temperature. My 98 never ever works on HPA, alot of people at my field get shoot down and/or sputtering on HPA (but thats usually because they're shooting at high a high ROF). Mine never has issues with C02 even in minus temperatures, don't know what it is.

[ToolCribGuy72]

I started paintball in '97, I own and have used markers aged from 1985 models up to my my Ego8. Most of my PB guns were given to me or never cost me money so to speak. Luck and good friends make it happen. Now my workhorse marker for 10yrs was an original Tippmann 98 with flatline barrel and it served me well with zero problems all that time. I never would have spent the money on an Ego, but one fell into my lap and I wasn't going to pass it up. Since then I've realized how well these speedball guns can do the job. Yes I see them as a tiny bit more fragile but I don't plan to use them to break my fall as I dive into cover. With today's tech and innovation, that old Tippmann and all my blowback/blowforward mechanicals are just mules and air pigs that just don't win firefights anymore. If you are into Tacticool, have at 'er, it's your gameplay, have fun however you like, but all my years playing I've always watched the non speed gun users walkin off the field 1st. Some people like the way they feel using certain equipment or wearing certain outfits too, and that's fine.

An old PB friend of mine told me once, "If paintball is a game of tag where you win by smashing .68cal paintballs on the other team members, then wouldn't you want to use whatever helped you to perform that task the best, and not use whatever will hinder that action?

Maybe I'm just rambling and not completely on topic...

This post has been edited by ToolCribGuy72: 27 February 2013 - 07:27 PM

[Billy Badass-RPF]

In my opinion ties with bravo one for most useless Tippmann product. It has to much extra stuff stuck on it that gives you no benifit. If you're quick with your finger you can actually out pull the bolt and will stop shooting completely. Shot a case through one and was glad it was my friends and not mine.

Pros: it has a folding stock

Con's: awkward to hold with air hooked up
Shrouds are useless
There is really no reason to have a magazine with tools in it.
IMO the way the feed neck hooks up is stupid
The vibrations cause the screws to come out and the gun gets wiggly

IMO the carver/tango one is a much better buy. It is the cheapest Tippmann gun that is still made out of metal, but is much more compact.The only downside to this gun is it won't accept a RT or cyclone hopper(Not that there worth having). I've put 40 cases through mine and it works like a dream, for what it is.

[PaintballPassion]

Thanks for the feedback. I ended up getting a used Etek3. And i say this at risking looking like a complete loser but what does IMO stand for?

[Lime]

PaintballPassion, on 27 February 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Thanks for the feedback. I ended up getting a used Etek3. And i say this at risking looking like a complete loser but what does IMO stand for?

In My Opinion.

[kingJurzy]

IMO you just look like a half idiot.



And I am kidding.

[PaintballPassion]

kingJurzy, on 27 February 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

IMO you just look like a half idiot.



And I am kidding.

hahah thanks?