[tryinmybest]

I am getting into pump after playing semi my whole paintballing life. I am stuck between the Azodin Kaos Pump and the SL-68 2. Just say which is better and why. Please do not recommend any Check It Products guns. Nothing against the Check It guns I just like the aesthetics of the other two guns better.

[Hobkinz]

Look at the thread only a few spots down. Exact same thread. Here's link http://www.techpb.co...showtopic=78176

[NorCalPB]

get the AKP. its smoother and you can put a new barrel, feedneck, ect.

This post has been edited by NorCalPB: 14 February 2010 - 04:33 PM

[OMGPaintball]

Azodin Kaos Pump:
Pros:

• easily upgraded
• cocker threaded barrel
• ion threaded feed neck
• (preference) Hitman mod

Cons:

• need to buy a spring kit to stop the farting
• Can never be up to par with a high end sniper
• Reports of pump arm snapping
• (for me) uncomfortable pump handle

Tippmann sl-68 II:
Pros:

• light
• durable
• quite small

Cons:

• Unstandard parts
• no trigger shoe
• slip fit barrel
• Basically unremovable ASA

Hope this helps!

[Patience]

I personally like the sl68 ii. The thing is as tough as nails. It's also one of those guns even the old farts will recogise. The new sl68's are way better than the old ones. Tippmann owns the industry in durability. The kaos is a little cheap. Also, if you're looking for accuracy and quietness, look at a phantom. A direct feed with the backbottle will out shoot any sl68 or kaos. And it's only like 40 bucks more

[Tribs]

Go for the SL-68II unless you feel you're going to be shooting a lot OC pump-wise.

[cockerpunk]

why can't an AKP compete with higher end snipers?

i shoot my KP in preference to more expensive snipers.

[SGP]

Hinge trigger frame

[tryinmybest]

Tribs, on 14 February 2010 - 07:30 PM, said:

Go for the SL-68II unless you feel you're going to be shooting a lot OC pump-wise.

What is OC pump-wise?

Also think of price because I am 13 and can't get a job.

[minikmak]

oc stands for open class

get the akp it farts in the sl68s face

This post has been edited by minikmak: 15 February 2010 - 10:12 AM

[tryinmybest]

minikmak, on 14 February 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:

open class

get the akp it farts in the sl68s face

There both open class guns.

[Devon]

I dont like the tippy pump gun. I dont know. I liked my AKP.

And I know you didnt want people to say this but.... Check it pwns all..
If you buy one then later on the looks really bother you, you can buy new bodys, frames, pump kits, regs, asas, barrels. Or you can half block it, mini it, just mill it how you like it, anno it, or laser it.

I dont know.. I would get the check it just because if you buy it you can have a base to go off for the rest of your paintball life and you wont need to buy a whole new gun. Just swap out parts whenever you want.

Either way, All the guns are going to shoot 300 fps so it all comes down to what you like.
Good luck and have fun!
-Devon

[minikmak]

tryinmybest, on 15 February 2010 - 01:07 AM, said:

minikmak, on 14 February 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:

open class

get the akp it farts in the sl68s face

There both open class guns.

he asked what oc stands for

[cockerpunk]

SGP, on 14 February 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:

Hinge trigger frame

it has a single frame. hinge or slider really doesn't matter, trigger frame doesn't really matter in the first place.

[The-Phantom]

Tribs, on 14 February 2010 - 02:29 AM, said:

I would like to see listed out how the AKP is superior then the SL-68II.

-Smoother Pump kit
-Barrel variety
-Can be regged
-Lighter
-Cheaper

those are the ones i can think of... but i voted sl-68 II

Personally i enjoyed using the my Sl-68 II for the brief stint that i had it, but it was just too loud and a bit heavy for my taste

the thing about my list is that, none of those things really effect how the gun shoots, you can sit here and argue all day that barrels make you more accurate but i'll point you over to the punk works forum and they have something different to say about that...

Arguing my own points

-Have you used an sl-68 II, the pump stroke is smooth enough, not near the AKP, but it gets the job done and well
-Who needs a new barrel when the stock one shoots money (phantoms any one?)
-Preference thing
-Quality is cheaper in the long run, on the money spent on a new barrel, or other upgrade or REAPAIRING your gun, you'll have spent as much as you did on the Sl-68 II

Now i already know your gonna argue and say things like

"you can't even upgrade the sl"

well, sorry but there is no need to, it is what it is and it shoots as good as any gun out there

"You can't underbore with the sl"

I'm sure if you want to, some on on MCB will bore your barrel for inserts, but your playing open class pump, efficiency isn't really that much of an issue here

The one few thing the Sl does have that the AKP does not, out of the box are Auto trigger, and a single trigger... two things a lot of pumper like, plus it is the most reliable gun out

[tryinmybest]

minikmak, on 15 February 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

tryinmybest, on 15 February 2010 - 01:07 AM, said:

minikmak, on 14 February 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:

open class

get the akp it farts in the sl68s face

There both open class guns.

he asked what oc stands for

Oh sorry dude.

[tryinmybest]

The-Phantom, on 15 February 2010 - 08:43 PM, said:

Tribs, on 14 February 2010 - 02:29 AM, said:

I would like to see listed out how the AKP is superior then the SL-68II.

-Smoother Pump kit
-Barrel variety
-Can be regged
-Lighter
-Cheaper

those are the ones i can think of... but i voted sl-68 II

Personally i enjoyed using the my Sl-68 II for the brief stint that i had it, but it was just too loud and a bit heavy for my taste

the thing about my list is that, none of those things really effect how the gun shoots, you can sit here and argue all day that barrels make you more accurate but i'll point you over to the punk works forum and they have something different to say about that...

Arguing my own points

-Have you used an sl-68 II, the pump stroke is smooth enough, not near the AKP, but it gets the job done and well
-Who needs a new barrel when the stock one shoots money (phantoms any one?)
-Preference thing
-Quality is cheaper in the long run, on the money spent on a new barrel, or other upgrade or REAPAIRING your gun, you'll have spent as much as you did on the Sl-68 II

Now i already know your gonna argue and say things like

"you can't even upgrade the sl"

well, sorry but there is no need to, it is what it is and it shoots as good as any gun out there

"You can't underbore with the sl"

I'm sure if you want to, some on on MCB will bore your barrel for inserts, but your playing open class pump, efficiency isn't really that much of an issue here

The one few thing the Sl does have that the AKP does not, out of the box are Auto trigger, and a single trigger... two things a lot of pumper like, plus it is the most reliable gun out

Nice argument. So far I think I am going to get the SL but not enough money yet, so keep posting.
Can't you just use those O-Ring underbore things if you want to prevent rollouts?

This post has been edited by tryinmybest: 15 February 2010 - 09:03 PM

[tryinmybest]

Devon, on 15 February 2010 - 07:06 AM, said:

I dont like the tippy pump gun. I dont know. I liked my AKP.

And I know you didnt want people to say this but.... Check it pwns all..
If you buy one then later on the looks really bother you, you can buy new bodys, frames, pump kits, regs, asas, barrels. Or you can half block it, mini it, just mill it how you like it, anno it, or laser it.

I dont know.. I would get the check it just because if you buy it you can have a base to go off for the rest of your paintball life and you wont need to buy a whole new gun. Just swap out parts whenever you want.

Either way, All the guns are going to shoot 300 fps so it all comes down to what you like.
Good luck and have fun!
-Devon

That is true but then I will just want to upgrade the hell out of it and I don't need to be doing that. (I.E. I have no self control on money{seriously!!!})

[Tribs]

Well, to put it bluntly, the SL-68II is a rock. Nothing to break on it, at all. It costs more, but it will pay off as you won't need to buy any "upgrades".

[The-Phantom]

I believe the SL has a foam detent that stops the ball from rolling out similar to the 98 customs it's an orangish color