[Lord Odin]

Its my very first paintball gun! I went to my parents house and was going through some old stuff and found my old gun. According to the manual, it was made in 1995, which makes it 13 years old. Wow, what a relic.



The manual says Minimag but it was given to all the Automags at the time, I believe. Mine is a 68 Standard.


Notice the dates?


The grips are broken and the old stainless braided was replaced with microline by a proshop a long time ago.



Automag barrels



Also found some Perfect Bore Ceramic's as well. I had an 18" and a 10".



What do you guys think I should do with it?

[ABOMBER760]

Wow thats nice, lucky you. What are you going to do with it?

This post has been edited by ABOMBER760: 20 November 2008 - 08:29 PM

[Nicholai]

Looks just like mine (minus the microlines). I was 16 (1995 as well!)when I begged my entire family for money to get one. I think it was around $400 when I got it. Mine was bone stock without even the vertical adapter. I had a 7oz co2 tank and vl200 loader. I was so annoyed when I got it because I always saw other people with mags and they were all upgraded and sounded bad ass and shot fast, boy I was in for a surprise LOL. Anyway I still have mine now, but the only thing still original is the grip frame and the first halve of the valve:

[Lord Odin]

ABOMBER760, on Nov 20 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

Wow thats nice, lucky you. What are you going to do with it?

I don't know, I was kind of hoping you guys would give me some tips. Off the top of my head would be to get it working by new o-rings, some grips, a polish job, and possibly replace the microline with macroline.

I remember having a 90 degree feed like that but I must have lost it at some point.

Are there upgrades still available for it?

[adrenilanejunkie]

play with it again that would be sick to see someone with one

[Lord Odin]

adrenilanejunkie, on Nov 20 2008, 07:55 PM, said:

play with it again that would be sick to see someone with one

At Fox Paintball near me, all of their rentals are Automags.

[Leftystrikesback]

you could make an insane sleeper pneumag with that!

This post has been edited by Leftystrikesback: 20 November 2008 - 11:27 PM

[Lord Odin]

Leftystrikesback, on Nov 20 2008, 10:27 PM, said:

you could make an insane sleeper pneumag with that!

What's a pneumag? I'm totally in the dark with mags here.

[brycelarson]

I say make a mag rifle out of it. Always wanted one of those myself, I may have to pick up a cheap classic and give it a try.

[ABOMBER760]

Pneumag (I think its pneumatic assisted is all)

This post has been edited by ABOMBER760: 20 November 2008 - 11:48 PM

[Ghostship702]

Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously, restore it, upgrade it, and DO NOT sell it. You have an awesome piece of history right there.

There are still upgrades for it, http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/

I'd say get a Level 10 bolt (eliminates chopping), ULe body (aluminum, cocker threaded, vert feed, light, sexy), and Intelliframe (Nice double trigger, lighter) for starts.
And yes, get rid of that microline.

[Nicholai]

Ghostship702, on Nov 20 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it,Keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously, restore it, upgrade it, and DO NOT sell it. You have an awesome piece of history right there.

There are still upgrades for it, http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/

I'd say get a Level 10 bolt (eliminates chopping), ULe body (aluminum, cocker threaded, vert feed, light, sexy), and Intelliframe (Nice double trigger, lighter) for starts.
And yes, get rid of that microline.

QFT! If you plan on using CO2 I would also recommend an expansion chamber. And a double trigger is a must for any mech gun.

[Lord Odin]

I was thinking of possibly restoring her but not sure if I should put some upgrades into it or if I should restore her to factory parts. Kind of like a classic car.

[cockerpunk]

at least give me a Christmas present - the crownpoint you have there!

probably needs new orings and reg seat. and micro line needs to be replaced with something better, but otherwise looks like a great shooter.

i want that crownpoint man, let me know if you'll sell it

[Lord Odin]

I disassembled the mag and saw I had a different bolt. I don't have the original with the soft tip anymore. I believe I threw that one away because the tip kept falling off and it pissed me off too much. So I replaced it with the other two shown here. I believe one of them is made by AGD.






As you can see, one has a bunch of little ports and has 4 routed channels on the back of the bolt. Anyone know what this bolt is or who made it? Also, was it better or worse than the AGD bolt? I would think all those little holes would cause a bunch of turbulence in the air and make the gun less efficient/consistent.

This post has been edited by Lord Odin: 23 November 2008 - 10:51 PM

[Nicholai]

The silver one is a stock level 7 bolt made by AGD. The gold one I have never seen before but it's called a "venturi bolt" I have one similar made by ans called the "phase 2". The venturi bolt was considered an upgrade.

This post has been edited by Nicholai: 24 November 2008 - 08:35 AM

[Lord Odin]

Nicholai, on Nov 24 2008, 07:34 AM, said:

The silver one is a stock level 7 bolt made by AGD. The gold one I have never seen before but it's called a "venturi bolt" I have one similar made by ans called the "phase 2". The venturi bolt was considered an upgrade.

Do you think all of those small holes would cause a lot of air turbulence and lead to less efficiency/consistency? Also, what is the purpose of the routed slots on the bottom?

[Nicholai]

Lord Odin, on Nov 24 2008, 10:02 AM, said:

Do you think all of those small holes would cause a lot of air turbulence and lead to less efficiency/consistency? Also, what is the purpose of the routed slots on the bottom?

What you can do to simulate the air passage is to take the bolt and put it on your water faucet and see how the water comes out of it. Do it with both bolts and you can see how smoothly the water comes out the venturi bolt. Does the air perform exactly like this, I don't know for sure. I have no idea what the routed slots on the bottom are, mine never had those??? Maybe just to make it look cool, seems like a bad idea to me as it seems like it would wear the bumper faster....

[Lord Odin]

I'll probably just do some testing at the chrono and record some numbers. I'll know for sure then which is the better bolt, performance-wise.

[Nicholai]

Lord Odin, on Nov 24 2008, 02:37 PM, said:

I'll probably just do some testing at the chrono and record some numbers. I'll know for sure then which is the better bolt, performance-wise.

Fair enough, I don't think you will see much a difference, I think the main reason they were maid in the first place was to be nicer on the paint and hit the paint with a more balanced air puff. How good it works, well you got me! Maybe a job for punkworks?? As if they don't have enough on their plate. But let me know how your numbers come out!