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What really happened at Paintball Explosion and why I'm not coming back Unsafe fields and terrible reffing

#41 User is offline   Jarz 

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

FYI, if anyone's going to the "Red Strike" game at Blast Camp, here's a thread I made for it: (Insert catchy thread name here)
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:00 PM

Im going :)

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:17 PM

Please check out my thread if you are attending!
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

just to prove I practice what I preach-



Listen @ 3:15

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:38 PM

View PostTechPB-Mike, on 03 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

just to prove I practice what I preach-



Listen @ 3:15


I've listened to this 5 times over and over again and can't make out what you're saying.. May just be my speakers though
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:57 AM

"go out there and tell them to back off their base" ???<div><br></div>

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:41 AM

In my 15 years of playing paintball, most unsafe unfair scenario ever.

After spending most of the day in one place on the field, wasting my money shooting at a clearly outnumbering force with a terrain advantage, I got kind of bored.


Sure, I shot lots of people, but what's the point when there's ten of them stacked behind each other at a bunker you need to take, and they're using each other as shields?
You can't gain ground or accomplish objectives that way. I didn't really care for the bounce rule, a little odd but nothing to get upset over, but I'm sure players who missed orientation didn't get the memo.
ROF caps were not enforced, first pull Fully Auto was allowed or at least not enforced and I saw many players wandering around without chrono punches or zipties. That had me concerned.

I don't blame our rental players and walkons for not charging to the front, and I'm sure many of them just gave up which only made the push back situation even worse to the point of spiraling out of control.
I had hoped that after the lunch/storm break we would swap bases, so I could see the other side of the field, but that didn't happen.

My first time at PBE and I never saw anything but our spawn point and the close side of the Vietnam ravine, huge disappointment.

During the first spawn camping incident, I ran out of paint (8 pods) trying to defend the spawn point.
I was actually sitting in the spawn point bunker the refs told us we had to go to and touch once out, so I didn't really do anything when I got hit except tap the side of the bunker, laugh and keep shooting.
Then I realized when players can do something like that, the game is screwed, so after I ran out of paint I walked off (and got lit up doing so, even with my gun up and sock on.)
When I heard that the refs were doing NOTHING to re-balance the game, hearing stories about the overshooting, excessive close range shots and safe zone shooting, I got pissed, broke my gear down and packed it up.

I heard that some Axis teams got moved over to the Allies side, but by then it was too little too late. I didn't stick around for the 'final battle', don't know the score, don't know who won, and don't care.

I am surprised that no one got more seriously hurt. I do hope the field's insurance provider has been notified of this situation.
While I'm against shutting down paintball fields, this kind of event is the sort of thing that reinforces the notions that paintball is unsafe, spurs fears of lawsuits, and causes insurers to raise rates EVERYWHERE or flat out prohibit scenario games.
I've seen this type of thing happen before in my line of work, one of those disasters/situations that is the result of a comedy of errors that 'could have been avoided' if only one person took their job seriously and did it correctly, but no one wanted to be a whistle-blower due to fear of repercussions from management.
It's the sort of management failure that people get seriously hurt over, or worse, that ends the business forever.


So I don't blame the refs either, most of them were not qualified / mature / paid enough to effectively deal with what was going on.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:25 AM

I have never been to an event in the past 15 or so years, that allows you to camp the respawn. Base sure, but it is usually a short walk from the respawn, so the hot insertion is getting in and taking back the base. Not the respawn.

I am glad that I did not waste my money on this.

Have not been to Explosion yet, but have heard good things.

This is also why I usually travel to indiana or plan my scenerio events around viper.

Too many bad experiences around here from the smaller ones.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:41 PM

I honestly dislike pbe because the staff there seem so rude. I went there to their store to buy something and when I asked for stuff they hardly helped out at all. It just wasn't a good environment and I'll just stick to H2

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:47 PM

View Post7 x, on 21 July 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

I honestly dislike pbe because the staff there seem so rude. I went there to their store to buy something and when I asked for stuff they hardly helped out at all. It just wasn't a good environment and I'll just stick to H2


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Anyway, they are not the most helpful staff at the store at times, but I like the refs. PBE blows away almost every other field in the Chicago area in my opinion (with the exception of CPX)

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:44 PM

View PostOringmonkey, on 04 July 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

"go out there and tell them to back off their base" ???<div><br></div>


Something about the other team shooting the helicopters.

Or shitting in them...


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 05:12 PM

View PostDeceiver, on 21 July 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

View Post7 x, on 21 July 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

I honestly dislike pbe because the staff there seem so rude. I went there to their store to buy something and when I asked for stuff they hardly helped out at all. It just wasn't a good environment and I'll just stick to H2


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Anyway, they are not the most helpful staff at the store at times, but I like the refs. PBE blows away almost every other field in the Chicago area in my opinion (with the exception of CPX)


15 days is considered a necro now?

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