[Slider993]

Thanks for all the help.

I forgot to mention I'm interested in the Lurker. Is it worth me purchasing the Lurker or just buying a new CP .679 back?

This post has been edited by Slider993: 27 March 2012 - 05:28 PM

[Kermit]

If you already have a CP two piece, I'd just get the back. The lurker finish just isn't QUITE as nice as a CP's, at least mine isn't.

brycelarson, on 27 March 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Kermit, on 27 March 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Do I have data to prove this? No, but it's what I observed. Shooting with my eigenbarrel with Premium on my DM3, the shots had a noticeable tendency to spread out at distance. On average, my spread was about 5 square feet(give or take, just estimating). After I threw my boomstick on the gun it shot perfectly straight every shot and was +/- 10 over the chronograph. With my 'cocker, the spread is much smaller.

Since I didn't do any testing, and I'm not involving real numbers, I know this doesn't count as a legitimate test. However, this is my observation. I use my eigenbarrel every time I play, and it shoots great for me, I just can't get it to get equal results on my open bolt markers.

Yeah, just can't really make any claims based on observations like that. The sight picture on different guns is different - there just can't be any real observations made on things like that. Sorry. Lock them down in a vice and try it - then you can comment on differences.

drg, on 27 March 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Regarding what Kermit said ... could this be Jack Wood's "loading systems" variable coming into play? Still, a successful underbore should exhibit no different spin or bouncing patterns from marker to marker, no?

That or simply a variation in sight picture, gun geometry, ergonomics etc.

You are correct, Bryce. My apologies, probably stupid to argue with the man who actually tested this out

[Slider993]

So today I went to ANSgear my local store and I got talked out of the .679. I told myself I wouldn't, but all of the workers claimed that I would break paint like crazy. They said I should get a .682, but paint was rolling halfway down the barrel back, so I decided to get nothing and do some more research.

They said the best option was the .682 or a Freak barrel. Will the .679 break paint/ be way too small like they claimed?

[drg]

Nope.

[Antonious]

Slider993, on 29 March 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

So today I went to ANSgear my local store and I got talked out of the .679. I told myself I wouldn't, but all of the workers claimed that I would break paint like crazy. They said I should get a .682, but paint was rolling halfway down the barrel back, so I decided to get nothing and do some more research.

They said the best option was the .682 or a Freak barrel. Will the .679 break paint/ be way too small like they claimed?

Uhh, no?
What the hell were they thinking?

[brycelarson]

Antonious, on 29 March 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

Uhh, no?
What the hell were they thinking?

they were thinking what 95% of paintball players thought 5 years ago. They were thinking exactly the same thing I thought until I tested it out.

Here - if they want to learn point them here:

http://www.punkworks...ex.php?p=7&id=6

and

http://www.punkworks...x.php?p=7&id=40

we were shooting paint that was as big as .690/.691 in some cases and didn't start seeing breaks till we got down to .673 with the barrel - that's an underbore of .017-ish. You're totally safe down to .005-.007 underbore.

[cockerpunk]

Slider993, on 29 March 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

So today I went to ANSgear my local store and I got talked out of the .679. I told myself I wouldn't, but all of the workers claimed that I would break paint like crazy. They said I should get a .682, but paint was rolling halfway down the barrel back, so I decided to get nothing and do some more research.

They said the best option was the .682 or a Freak barrel. Will the .679 break paint/ be way too small like they claimed?

people at paintball shops are the LAST people you want to take tech advice from.

[drg]

Well if the paint is like > .695 it might be too small. Balls could get stuck, but it STILL won't necessarily break a lot of balls due to the underbore.

[Kermit]

I have a .685 CP barrel and a .678 Eigenbarrel. I really like the eigenbarrel on my 'cocker when paint is small, which is it a lot of the time. When I shoot with an open bolt gun I'll just use the .685 regardless.

[Slider993]

Thanks everyone. I'm going to go purchase the .679 back and see how it works out.