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First strike rifled barrel test

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostTroy, on 15 March 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:


Alright... but I still want to see that video!

Knowing that it's "out there" just not public is not nice. :(


Here you go:

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

Did you guys notice any breaks during the test? Did the rifling cause any increase in fragility of the round?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:57 PM

View PostLord Odin, on 15 March 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Did you guys notice any breaks during the test? Did the rifling cause any increase in fragility of the round?


I had 4 breaks. Two on rifled systems, two on smooth bore systems. The tiberius guns are simply a bad paintball platform. They don't function well. Three were chops and one was a barrel break - or simply came apart in the barrel without fouling the breech - that one was in the hammerhead.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:00 AM

Have you tried the hammerhead rifled barrel on the Hammer 7? I'm curious to hear if the fins have an impact on the accuracy of first strike (and also how you feel about the H7 as a first strike platform)

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

View Postjohnny5, on 16 March 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Have you tried the hammerhead rifled barrel on the Hammer 7? I'm curious to hear if the fins have an impact on the accuracy of first strike (and also how you feel about the H7 as a first strike platform)


I'm a fan of a semi-auto platform for First Strikes. The quick follow-up shots are often necessary and a pump platform means it's harder to keep on target between shots.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:28 PM

View Postbrycelarson, on 16 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

View Postjohnny5, on 16 March 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Have you tried the hammerhead rifled barrel on the Hammer 7? I'm curious to hear if the fins have an impact on the accuracy of first strike (and also how you feel about the H7 as a first strike platform)


I'm a fan of a semi-auto platform for First Strikes. The quick follow-up shots are often necessary and a pump platform means it's harder to keep on target between shots.


Have you guys done anything with the DAM yet? Lots of awesome ideas there, but I can't get around the price tag. I'm still hoping someone can make a light, inexpensive fs marker, rather than heavy and expensive hybrids. I'd even settle for a pump gun. I just want something I can carry around with my regular marker, rather than replacing it.

Also, have you guys ever thought of comparing all the fs mags and marker internals out there, to see what works and what doesn't? Seems like this kind of marker has only made piecemeal progress over the last few years.

This post has been edited by Teek: 19 March 2013 - 01:32 PM

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostTeek, on 19 March 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Have you guys done anything with the DAM yet? Lots of awesome ideas there, but I can't get around the price tag. I'm still hoping someone can make a light, inexpensive fs marker, rather than heavy and expensive hybrids. I'd even settle for a pump gun. I just want something I can carry around with my regular marker, rather than replacing it.

Also, have you guys ever thought of comparing all the fs mags and marker internals out there, to see what works and what doesn't? Seems like this kind of marker has only made piecemeal progress over the last few years.


They'll correct me if I'm wrong but no, they haven't done any testing of the DAM.

In regards to comparing the different markers in production, it sounds like your looking for something more along the lines of product reviews. Especially since, none of the marker manufacturers are making specific claims of how their marker fires FS rounds better than the others. This is something that Punkworks does not engage in.

I agree with the seemingly piecemeal approach but, you need to remember that FS rounds have barely been available for four years. You can safely assume that the industry waited for at least a year before committing to research and development (to see how the rounds performed in reality and in the market). Aside from the T15, all the guns on the market are essentially first generation.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:39 PM

I remember back in the 90's one of the first mods I did was a rifled armson barrel for my spyder compact. I thought it was an absolutely awesome barrel and I did feel like it made the gun more accurate. Only problem was if you chopped a ball your accuracy was BONED. Good to see they are bringing them back.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:40 PM

View PostVhyrus, on 19 March 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

I remember back in the 90's one of the first mods I did was a rifled armson barrel for my spyder compact. I thought it was an absolutely awesome barrel and I did feel like it made the gun more accurate. Only problem was if you chopped a ball your accuracy was BONED. Good to see they are bringing them back.


Your eyes deceived you. With regular paint, rifled barrels do no good. This test/thread is all about First Strike Rounds.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:45 PM

Makes me wish I hadn't traded away my Hammerhead barrel for my modded TPX :(

Do you think a seven inch barrel would even be long enough to impart spin on the FirstStrike rounds?

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:13 AM

View PostJasonSaastad, on 25 March 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Do you think a seven inch barrel would even be long enough to impart spin on the FirstStrike rounds?


yes. the 9" barrels we tested were better when rifled however the longer barrels increased accuracy by a larger factor.

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