What are autocockers and mags?
Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:53 PM
That being said they are still a fun gun. I would suggest buying a new ULE mag straight from AGD. It will retain 95% of its value, you get all the upgrades (level ten, trigger job, your choice of frame) and you know it works.
Cockers will leak more often but are easy fixes. honestly a cocker is one of the easiest guns to repair and maintain. There are 100,000 youtube tutorials, and they are about as easy to assemble as a spyder.
It depends on your price range:
New: your only option here is CCM or the AKA merlin body kits both are expensive.
Mech: Belsales Evo x or Eclipse Autococker
Electro: Karni MQd, SR MQd
Pump: New ccm 6
Mech: shocktech SFL, Kapp, CCM works
Electro: A nice 2k+ body with an E2
Pump: CCM with an AT kit
mainly the bodies are the same milled from wgp blanks (aside from aka, ccm, and jackal machine)
I would avoid ANS, Palmers, FBM, Spankyfishbone, Race frames, and MQ valves if you are not confident with taking it apart. These items are finicky.
I would avoid an E1 if I could.
Basically my favorite cockers are these:
Belsales/ Eclipse: they took a standard cocker and polished modded stock parts to make them better
Shocktech: took the hot rod approach but still very similiar to belsales just a different approach.
Kapp: took both approaches and made fantastic custom cockers
AKA: pricy but AKA doesn't have upgrades, they have accessories
CCM: Makes great stuff especially pump stuff
The main thing it will come down to is your milling preference as all of them will have a different flair.
But basically unless its electro they will all shoot effeciently, smoothly (weight helps with this), fairly fast, and quiet.
The main selling point of ccm is they warranty parts for life.
The main selling point of belsales is they are still in buisiness and have rebuild parts for rams and regs.
Kapp is no longer around, but they made stuff to last
Shocktech no longer makes rams, lprs, or 3 ways and the 3 way oring is not easy to find
Aka is just really pricey.
Any of those brands I would strongly reccomend
Posted 29 January 2012 - 06:46 AM
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:54 PM
This post has been edited by PAINTHEY: 02 February 2012 - 12:55 PM
Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:30 PM
Fixing a leaking AutoMag is not harder than fixing a leaking AutoCocker or a leaking "modern age" gun like Ego, DM oder Luxe.
You just have to get on the problem in a methodic way - replacing orings in a random order doesn't help to fix a leaking gun, no matter what brand or type it is.
Tom Kaye (the man who invented the AutoMag) made a video which explains to pinpoint the problem. It's floating around on YouTube. Once you watched it, it's quite easy to fix a leaking AutoMag.
The only hard thing in my opinion is to set up a level 10 bolt kit the right way. It may take some time, as you have to go by try and error. Sometimes you hit the perfect setup by the first try, sometimes you tinker around a lot until you have it working right.
Neverthelesss - if you decide to get an AutoMag or an AutoCocker, be aware that these guns need some more time and love to be set up and tuned perfectly. It's not as easy as with modern guns, where you play with the settings of the board. It's all mechanical, so you need at least a bit of talent and craftmanship if you want to get the best results.
On the other hand you have endless options to customize the guns for your needs and preferences - and that's the fun part of it in my opinion.
It took me about one and a half year to get the all the parts I needed to build my personal AutoMag (here in Germany we face some problems, as paintball guns are considered firearms, so you can't just import the main parts of them). Now, that I have completed it and set it up right - I won't give it away at any cost. I owned some highend guns (MacDev Clone, Planet Eclipse Geo 2 and 2.1, Dye NT10 and NT11) and never had a problem to let them go. My AutoMag? The only way to get it is to take it from my dead, cold hands...
This post has been edited by ghostdancer: 12 April 2012 - 02:33 PM
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