-ORaNGe-, on 13 February 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:
The debts owed by Vanguard were owed by Vanguard, not Vanguard USA, different company, Frank bought the assets, patents, equipment, etc. Just because you buy a company's assets does not mean you also get their debts. Creditors need to chase the former owners, not Frank and Vanguard USA.
As for the Demon, there is a reason we chose it, it has the efficiency of a G6R (Mike's efficiency test of it yielded 12 1/2 pods), and the Demon gets 12-13 pods. The next major advantage for us is that it's RIDICULOUSLY quiet, gun's sound signatures vary based on where you stand, the Ego for instance isn't all that loud for the shooter, but for the target on the other end it's loud as hell. The Demon if you're on the other end you just flat out don't hear it, especially in the woods. They've also proven to be VERY reliable in the winter here where many spools won't work, here's an interesting tidbit, Dye asked Kaz to try the Dye DAM with similar settings that we were using for the Demons to have them run well in the winter to see if they could get the same results.
It's also smooth as all hell, not a huge factor for me, I personally don't care that much but it definitely is nice, it shoots smoother and quieter than the Luxe or Clone, both of which being more expensive markers and it's more efficient than both as well. The Demon does have downfalls though I'll be the first to admit it or I wouldn't be me. The trigger needs work, it's too stiff for my liking, the first thing you should do is remove the trigger spring if there is one. The trigger is decent, perfectly fine if you're using ramping but for semi I'd like a lighter trigger. The only other gripe I have is no hard copy manual you can bring out to the field, it's on a CD instead.
That's all stuff that will be addressed though, Frank takes our feedback seriously and changes have already been made based on our suggestions. If anyone has any questions about Demons at all or need tech help feel free to PM me.
This question's been floating around for a few months, but still hasn't clearly been answered - if Vanguard did not yet own the designs on their markers because they hadn't paid for them, did they have the ability to sell them to Vanguard USA as assets in the first place? Is Frank infringing by continuing to release new markers using more or less the same design if he doesn't actually own it?
Not really sure why Frank took such a hard line with the designers - he could have fixed the problems that Vanguard UK had made by paying them and gotten a head start on new work in the future. Instead the 2013 model looks an awful lot like the 2009 model. All for the cost of what? They couldn't possibly have been much of the total debt, but I guess maybe you pay one guy and then the whole pile of $800k debts has a logical argument for why they should get their piece, too. For the record, never have I heard of a legitimate business deal where a company sells all of its assets to someone, bankrupts all of the debts, and then all of the former employees get to reopen their storefront in the same place in the market but just under a different name. Doesn't that sound even the least bit shady to you, Orange?
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