[-ORaNGe-]

These are the new internals for the 2013 Vanguard Demon, running on an operating pressure of only 90psi shooting @ 300fps, compared to 125psi before which even then was VERY smooth. Also, no more QEV which caused some issues in the old guns and to top it off the bolt is now sprung as well resulting in a MASSIVE reduction in FSDO and bolt stick, the gun will also be far less picky on lube. Two guns were made initially with these internals to ensure they worked and could see further testing. Both performed extremely well with over 60,000 shots being put through them at the CXBL and NPPL as well as over 100,000 shots in the factory. Citrus has received numerous testers and we've been told to abuse them as much as we possibly can. Run them with little lube, do no maintenance and see when issues begin to arise. The one of the first 2 testers was put through both CXBL E3 and the latest NPPL shooting over 30,000 shots and was lubed once.

As for the old Demons, if you send yours in this upgrade runs for $200 USD plus shipping, this is not a drop in upgrade the gun's body needs 2 additional air passages drilled in due to the removal of the QEV from the manifold. The retail of the Demon for 2013 will be going up to $1250 I believe so you'd be spending the money anyway to get your hands on this engine.

Citrus should have several of these new engines this weekend depending on a Fedex delivery tomorrow so if anyone reading this will be at the Wasaga big game and see's a fleet of orange and white Demons feel free to ask if you can try one out.

(I would have had this posted up much earlier but today is my 4th anniversary)

[TheGuy]

Good to know you're alive...

[-ORaNGe-]

Nice to see you too lol, been busy as FUCK lately, in the last 6 weeks of my trades course, getting paperwork done to prepare our move to the next posting, running the team, then of course the whole daughter/wife thing =)

[TECHDP=)]

If i keep my demon. I'll probably upgrade to this.

[AT3256]

Happy Anniversary!

Also, cool. Might have to look into this when I buy a high-end later this year.

[paintballer4ever]

So the only change to the Demon is the new engine? You can just get a Demon for $550-$600 and the $200 engine and save a lot of money..

[-ORaNGe-]

New Demons will also be coming with the leather cases from now on, a lot of people were le sad when they switched to a box lol

[Funk21]

Sounds cool but why would they not work on anything else if your releasing a new demon. Not that I have used one but I heard a lot of people gripe about how bad the stock trigger is. Furthermore, a lot of people thought the front reg was ugly as sin. Again these are just comments from postings but it just seems to me if your gonna address some issues do it up right!!!

[Eskimo]

^^ Bits at a time good sir, within 2 months Frank Connell has purchased vanguard, moved it to the US. and created a new bolt an a new drive train.

Thats ALOT to do in 2 months.

Also the trigger is not bad at all, remove the trigger spring and move the magnet away by a few turns.


and I personally like the reg. it fits in my hand and operates like 99% of the other HPR's in the world.

This post has been edited by Eskimo: 19 August 2012 - 05:22 PM

[SpaceMan]

Just out of curiosity will the new demon have new milling along with the new and improved internals or is it still not decided ?

[bigx]

[Eskimo]

SpaceMan, on 20 August 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

Just out of curiosity will the new demon have new milling along with the new and improved internals or is it still not decided ?

not sure.

if they keep the same sexy milling I would enjoy that very much,
If they milled the body like the "Karta" bodies, I would also bust a nut.

[cockerpunk]

i love guns that are not designed to work right out of the box.

[SpaceMan]

Eskimo, on 20 August 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

SpaceMan, on 20 August 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

Just out of curiosity will the new demon have new milling along with the new and improved internals or is it still not decided ?

not sure.

if they keep the same sexy milling I would enjoy that very much,
If they milled the body like the "Karta" bodies, I would also bust a nut.

It's always easier buying used when there's different milling between versions unlike many markers on the market today

[etekgirl27]

i demand more color choices...

[cockerpunk]

etekgirl27, on 20 August 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

i demand more color choices...

i demand a gun that was designed to work right from the beginning

[andrewthewookie]

cockerpunk, on 20 August 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

i demand a gun that was designed to work right from the beginning

Like the G3?

[cockerpunk]

andrewthewookie, on 20 August 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

cockerpunk, on 20 August 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

i demand a gun that was designed to work right from the beginning

Like the G3?

:iamnotamused:

[Eskimo]

cockerpunk, on 20 August 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

I demand a gun that was designed to work right from the beginning

Yea we Did to.

[Demon]

retardedly stupid efficient... i want one, but i really can't justify picking the one up from my shop and then paying another $200 for the new engine... geo 3 or luxe sounds a bit better at that price but i probably will just sit on my hands and not do anything.