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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:31 PM

the barrel is the stock one from a autococker trilogy sport. I've tried putting some tape on the end of it. today i ended up having about 10 barrel breaks threw out the day, paint was either evil or ultra evil cant remember which. Any suggestions on what else i could try and see if it lowers the barrel breaks, and suggestions for a hpr would be appreciated. thanks

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:34 PM

View Postbubo, on 23 September 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

the barrel is the stock one from a autococker trilogy sport. I've tried putting some tape on the end of it. today i ended up having about 10 barrel breaks threw out the day, paint was either evil or ultra evil cant remember which. Any suggestions on what else i could try and see if it lowers the barrel breaks, and suggestions for a hpr would be appreciated. thanks


I do not think you can do anything without a new bolt (speaking out of my ass here).

When I had my cocker, it was really hard on paint, so you might need a new bolt.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 08:38 PM

its a pump so its not the bolt chopping it it never had anything on it anyway. idk what could have caused it but the thing i dont like is when it does happen paint gets under the tape and i have to take the tape off, thus destroying it, in order to clean under it.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 09:04 PM

I take it you just have the gas through grip on it right now?

Any standard HPR that would fit might work well.
However, apparently,the Sport's weren't made to run on anything less than 800 psi. I've got mine running at (what I think) 500 psi and 4 turns in with the IVG. Works solid.

I will be getting the low pressure kit soon. Maybe you should too.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:32 PM

i had issues just getting the damn thing above.. was it 150 or 200fps, cant remember, anyway i already have the low pressure springs in and they work. i know i need a reg for it and if I'm doing that might as well change the asa at the same time so its line out the front cus that square right angle out the side bugs the crap out of me when i shoot left handed.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:53 PM

you just have the springs or the whole valve kit as well? To my knowledge, you need the valve assembly as well as it allows greater flow (and therefore you can get away with low pressure)
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:46 AM

it was kind of cold for evil today, i told you that at the field as far as regs go, don't keep putting money into that trilogy it just has problems and wasn't designed for what you want it to do. take a good long look at this.

and i have also told you, lurker barrel, that's how to stop rollouts, or a smaller bore, those are the only ways, and we have had bad evil at the field for a bit.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

Tape shouldn't be causing barrel breaks if you're doing it properly:


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:37 PM

View Postbubo, on 23 September 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

i had issues just getting the damn thing above.. was it 150 or 200fps, cant remember, anyway i already have the low pressure springs in and they work. i know i need a reg for it and if I'm doing that might as well change the asa at the same time so its line out the front cus that square right angle out the side bugs the crap out of me when i shoot left handed.


Until you have an input regulator you need to use the stock springs.
I'm not surprised you're having velocity problems.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 12:50 AM

simple dont point your gun downward lol

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:50 AM

Have you tried making nail polish detents? I do this on my older guns that don't have detents or a barrel kit .
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 12:07 PM

View PostBuckyboy098, on 25 September 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

simple dont point your gun downward lol

you should try playing pump sometime.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:10 PM

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View PostBuckyboy098, on 25 September 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

simple dont point your gun downward lol

you should try playing pump sometime.


Actually he has a point, most of the time you want to have your gun up, and if you need to hold the gun in a rest position, you can always opt for upward. This is what we did back in the day before anyone knew anything about paint fit lol
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 07:21 PM

View Postdrg, on 25 September 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

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View PostBuckyboy098, on 25 September 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

simple dont point your gun downward lol

you should try playing pump sometime.


Actually he has a point, most of the time you want to have your gun up, and if you need to hold the gun in a rest position, you can always opt for upward. This is what we did back in the day before anyone knew anything about paint fit lol


There is a thing called stock class, play it then get back to us

Also to answer op, try getting a tight bore barrel or like Yankee said nail polish detents. Apparently my heat paint likes to roll out at .684, dammit now to .681 I go before I frantom a barrel

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 07:44 PM

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View Postbubo, on 23 September 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

i had issues just getting the damn thing above.. was it 150 or 200fps, cant remember, anyway i already have the low pressure springs in and they work. i know i need a reg for it and if I'm doing that might as well change the asa at the same time so its line out the front cus that square right angle out the side bugs the crap out of me when i shoot left handed.


Until you have an input regulator you need to use the stock springs.
I'm not surprised you're having velocity problems.


that was with the stock springs. the low pressure springs fixed that issue, it just jumps.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:02 PM

bolts not a problem on cocker pumps... just underbore.... its the easyest way and you can get a 685 cp barrel for 30 bucks thatl be amazing..... just buy a 685 barrel <_<

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 09:59 AM

.685 is too large. .675 lurker or .680 is best.

velocity jumps are due to it being non regulated

but again for the money you are putting into this thing and what i know you want to do with it, i would highly suggest looking at those pumps i linked

this one is a really good deal for the price

http://www.techpb.co...howtopic=201695

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:00 AM

don't have the funds for another gun after dropping 5 grand on classes, and next semester ill be taking even more

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:02 AM

Nail polish is probably the way to go then.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:44 AM

View PostThe Inflicted, on 26 September 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Nail polish is probably the way to go then.


ive heard of that and white out. But don't those end up harming the barrel if you ever plan on removing it?

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