[robot0ninja]

But stickiness varies greatly from object to object. The combination of the shell and oils on human hands could be very sticky, while to other objects without oil on them it could be not sticky to them at all, I did not test that.

[TK-421]

robot0ninja, on 30 August 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

No, the Hydrotec paint is very sticky. Much stickier than normal paint.

Now that was definitely unexpected, an interesting revelation, I wonder why.

[robot0ninja]

TK-421, on 30 August 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

robot0ninja, on 30 August 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

No, the Hydrotec paint is very sticky. Much stickier than normal paint.

Now that was definitely unexpected, an interesting revelation, I wonder why.

Don't know. I just know when I was testing it with Skeletor it was really sticky. Shot like shit too.

[Lord Odin]

Really people? Picking paint off the ground? Like that's gonna make any difference in the long run. Why don't we focus on the important aspects like does this stuff live up to the hype we were led to believe. So far, the manufacturing tolerances are definitely not up to snuff and even in pristine condition, they are not suitable for regular play. Neither is the cleanup.

[That Rich Paintballer]

Going to the degrading topic, if it is made from corn, wouldn't it rot after 2-3 weeks? I don't know how fast normal paintballs degrade, but that figure shouldn't be too bad.

[andrewthewookie]

Not quite. Just because something is derived from corn, does not mean it retains the properties of the parent substance. For instance, you can make plastics from corn; that's right, the plastic container you look at could be derived from corn.

[That Rich Paintballer]

andrewthewookie, on 06 September 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Not quite. Just because something is derived from corn, does not mean it retains the properties of the parent substance. For instance, you can make plastics from corn; that's right, the plastic container you look at could be derived from corn.

Then, I guess, because of this uncertainty, we will not be able to find out until someone does a real-world test.

[robot0ninja]

That Rich Paintballer, on 06 September 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Going to the degrading topic, if it is made from corn, wouldn't it rot after 2-3 weeks? I don't know how fast normal paintballs degrade, but that figure shouldn't be too bad.

Before or after its shot?

[brycelarson]

I've been ignoring this topic until something new came to my attention - and here it is:

from Paul's facebook page:

"Fans, I apologize for the silence on our page, and from HydroTec in general. For those of you who have followed this project, and me personally, I sincerely thank you. For those of you who are not aware, I am one of the inventors, and have been the driving force behind HydroTec for the last 9 years. In 2009, I agreed to be an employee of HydroTec as part of a deal with a local Chicago investor. However I regret to inform all of you that I am no longer an employee of HydroTec. It should also be known that it was not my decision, but was that of my investor.

It is also important to me that you all know and understand, that over the majority of this year, I have had little involvement in the company’s direction. This includes keeping our faithful followers updated and informed regarding the product. Further, I had no knowledge of, nor was I ever informed of any “launch” at Paintball Explosion. This was also the first time I had heard of an exclusively “indoor” HydroTec formula. My product plan and expectation has always been that HydroTec should be good for both indoor and outdoor play. Further, you should know that Chuck Hendsch is the sole remaining employee of HydroTec. HydroTec’s other employees, (Marketing Manager, Production Coordinator, Project Coordinator, and VP of Technology/Co-Inventor) have moved on from the company.

After nearly a decade of work on this invention, I am confident that in the proper hands and with the proper care, my invention stands to change the industry we all know and love. It is with that in mind that I refocus my efforts to overcome these recent obstacles and continue to pursue what I created. Thus, I have not given up.

Thank you again to all of you who have supported me, my vision, and HydroTec over the last decade.

- Paul Ciesiun"

[cybermaniac15]

brycelarson, on 24 September 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:

I've been ignoring this topic until something new came to my attention - and here it is:

from Paul's facebook page:

"Fans, I apologize for the silence on our page, and from HydroTec in general. For those of you who have followed this project, and me personally, I sincerely thank you. For those of you who are not aware, I am one of the inventors, and have been the driving force behind HydroTec for the last 9 years. In 2009, I agreed to be an employee of HydroTec as part of a deal with a local Chicago investor. However I regret to inform all of you that I am no longer an employee of HydroTec. It should also be known that it was not my decision, but was that of my investor.

It is also important to me that you all know and understand, that over the majority of this year, I have had little involvement in the company’s direction. This includes keeping our faithful followers updated and informed regarding the product. Further, I had no knowledge of, nor was I ever informed of any “launch” at Paintball Explosion. This was also the first time I had heard of an exclusively “indoor” HydroTec formula. My product plan and expectation has always been that HydroTec should be good for both indoor and outdoor play. Further, you should know that Chuck Hendsch is the sole remaining employee of HydroTec. HydroTec’s other employees, (Marketing Manager, Production Coordinator, Project Coordinator, and VP of Technology/Co-Inventor) have moved on from the company.

After nearly a decade of work on this invention, I am confident that in the proper hands and with the proper care, my invention stands to change the industry we all know and love. It is with that in mind that I refocus my efforts to overcome these recent obstacles and continue to pursue what I created. Thus, I have not given up.

Thank you again to all of you who have supported me, my vision, and HydroTec over the last decade.

- Paul Ciesiun"

The fuuuu?!?!

[Demon]

well looks like hydrotec is done and has been pretty shady in the workings so far it seems.

[cockerpunk]

damn, would have loved to have some of the paint for evaluation before it goes vaporware

[Cable]

brycelarson, on 24 September 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:

I've been ignoring this topic until something new came to my attention - and here it is:

from Paul's facebook page:

"Fans, I apologize for the silence on our page, and from HydroTec in general. For those of you who have followed this project, and me personally, I sincerely thank you. For those of you who are not aware, I am one of the inventors, and have been the driving force behind HydroTec for the last 9 years. In 2009, I agreed to be an employee of HydroTec as part of a deal with a local Chicago investor. However I regret to inform all of you that I am no longer an employee of HydroTec. It should also be known that it was not my decision, but was that of my investor.

It is also important to me that you all know and understand, that over the majority of this year, I have had little involvement in the company’s direction. This includes keeping our faithful followers updated and informed regarding the product. Further, I had no knowledge of, nor was I ever informed of any “launch” at Paintball Explosion. This was also the first time I had heard of an exclusively “indoor” HydroTec formula. My product plan and expectation has always been that HydroTec should be good for both indoor and outdoor play. Further, you should know that Chuck Hendsch is the sole remaining employee of HydroTec. HydroTec’s other employees, (Marketing Manager, Production Coordinator, Project Coordinator, and VP of Technology/Co-Inventor) have moved on from the company.

After nearly a decade of work on this invention, I am confident that in the proper hands and with the proper care, my invention stands to change the industry we all know and love. It is with that in mind that I refocus my efforts to overcome these recent obstacles and continue to pursue what I created. Thus, I have not given up.

Thank you again to all of you who have supported me, my vision, and HydroTec over the last decade.

- Paul Ciesiun"

Who was the investor? Why did they see fit to destroy Hydrotec?

[PacosTacos88]

brycelarson, on 24 September 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:

"However I regret to inform all of you that I am no longer an employee of HydroTec. It should also be known that it was not my decision, but was that of my investor."

No words. Just a state of depression...

[Neto2008]

Bravotv, on 26 July 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

the paint is $95 a case if because the shell is corn based (not gelatin)
and is waterproof, therefore i am assuming that the manufacturing process is different.

Hydrotec is having a very hard time and most likely will fail for one thing, and that is the price of corn. If you watch the news you will know that corn is very expensibe right nowan not likely to go lower any time soon. The so called inverstor probably saw the trend of corn going up and decided to cut his looses if you want more info the link below explains it very nice.

I wish them the best, but is not looking good for them.




http://inflationdata...n_Inflation.asp

This post has been edited by Neto2008: 25 September 2012 - 01:56 AM

[andrewthewookie]

Neto2008, on 25 September 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

Hydrotec its having a very hard time and most likely will fail for one thing, and that is the price of corn. If you watch the news you will know that corn is very expensibe right nowan not likely to go lower any time soon. The so called inverstor probably saw the trend of corn going up and decided to cut his looses if you want more info the link below explains it very well

http://inflationdata...n_Inflation.asp

Those prices are in metric tons though; I'm pretty sure Hydrotec would not be a mass consumer of corn. The only part of the paintball that utilizes a corn based derivative is the shell, which is a small portion of the paintballs.

[Neto2008]

Which on is heavier a ton of feathers or a ton of lead?

It does not matter if the price is on metric tons or ounces , the fact is corn is very expensive at the moment

[andrewthewookie]

Yes, it does actually. Also, what qualifies as "expensive?" For all we know, a ton of corn could provide all the material they need for a year's worth of shells. My point is that you have no idea how much corn is used to make the shells, nor do you know how much money they pay.

This post has been edited by andrewthewookie: 25 September 2012 - 12:55 PM

[p8ntballin007]

They had posted on their Facebook wall a long time ago when this question first came up, that the cost of the corn will not be an issue. I don't know if they had a private source or how they had it set up, but they came out and stated that if corn goes up in price it will be a non-factor. This was probably close to 2 years ago at this point.

[robot0ninja]

Uhh, I'm pretty sure "It is with that in mind that I refocus my efforts to overcome these recent obstacles and continue to pursue what I created. Thus, I have not given up" doesn't mean Hydrotec is vaporware. Just the opposite actually. Focus on the "continue to pursue what I created. Thus, I have NOT given up"

This post has been edited by robot0ninja: 26 September 2012 - 02:43 PM