[o-baller]

drg, on 26 November 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

The Inflicted, on 01 November 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Funfact: Empire's Trracer, Sniper, and Axe were all designed by the same person.

Only if you consider cosmetics, relatively minor performance tuning, and appropriation of previously existing aftermarket parts and ideas to be "designing" ...

I would...

On another note, I hate to do it but I would have to agree with the others in that you should attempt to find a used Sniper 2 or something of that nature. Just about any converted autococker is going to be as good or better than an AKP or a traccer. However, it also depends on if you like nelson valves or not. If so, then I would attempt to get a used phantom.

This post has been edited by o-baller: 28 November 2012 - 04:35 PM

[drg]

o-baller, on 28 November 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

I would...

So when we get a body milled and put CCM parts on it, we have designed a gun? No.

[OMGPaintball]

I own the empire trraccer and i have to say it's a nice little gun. As far as being better than the AKP, i wouldn't say it is. personally I like the feel of sniper style pumps over nelson pumps. Both are great guns though.

[o-baller]

drg, on 28 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

o-baller, on 28 November 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

I would...

So when we get a body milled and put CCM parts on it, we have designed a gun? No.

So the axe was created using existing parts? And the empire snipers were made from CCM parts? I don't think so...
Either way, not about to have a repeat of the last "argument"...

This post has been edited by o-baller: 01 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

[drg]

o-baller, on 01 December 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

drg, on 28 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

o-baller, on 28 November 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

I would...

So when we get a body milled and put CCM parts on it, we have designed a gun? No.

So the axe was created using existing parts? And the empire snipers were made from CCM parts? I don't think so...
Either way, not about to have a repeat of the last "argument"...

Of those three guns, Simon designed the Mini which became Axe. He did not design the trracer nor the sniper.
Designing a gun entails more than just adapting it for manufacture by your current company.

[OrbitalPB]

I am a speedballer and my first pump gun (and my current pump gun) is the empire trracer. The empire trracer feels weird for the first 3 or so games except once you get comfortable with it you will be shooting amazingly acurate. The only thing you may want to do is to create a bottomline kit for your trracer if you purchase one.

[pumpmaster flex]

just skip all of the previous and order a lapco gray ghost, but if your not cool enough get a used sniper (like everyone else said.....)