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Posted 17 December 2008 - 05:59 PM

does barrel porting help accuaracy?
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:01 PM

thats what palmers claims.

idk, its defiantly one to test though.
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:14 PM

it does reduce noise, my trracer is LOUD lol
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:57 PM

I asked Custom Products for a barrel w/o porting - but have not yet heard back. If we can get two barrels that are identical - except for porting the test is really easy.

Yes, porting does reduce noise - as far as I know - but accuracy - I've heard all kinds of claims - from spiral porting increasing range to reverse porting increasing accuracy and on and on - I've never seen any evidence to prove that porting does anything except make guns quieter.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 07:51 PM

Yeah, thats the same thing i was thinkin bryce

i used to have a trillogy and it had a 12" non ported barrel, and that thing was just as accurate if not more so than my other guns with their fancy spiral ported barrels. (sp all american)
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 08:12 PM

I remember a video by AGD discussing the crown tip and how it eased up the transition from the barrel to air. I remeber in the video he compared it to shooting a bullet into water and how it "kinks" when it hits the water. I wonder if the porting helps even out the pressure in front of and behind the ball to help it not wobble or kink after it leaves the barrel. Just something to think about.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 08:46 PM

View PostNicholai, on Dec 17 2008, 07:12 PM, said:

I remember a video by AGD discussing the crown tip and how it eased up the transition from the barrel to air. I remeber in the video he compared it to shooting a bullet into water and how it "kinks" when it hits the water. I wonder if the porting helps even out the pressure in front of and behind the ball to help it not wobble or kink after it leaves the barrel. Just something to think about.


That's certainly one of the claims that various manufacturers have used in the past - however, as I said, I have never seen any evidence that this is true. I'm not saying that it isn't - just that I haven't seen the data.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 08:56 PM

this would make a good one

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:06 PM

I've been after this for a long time....I wish some of the older claims along as the newer claims that the companies are making about porting. porting design could be tested...
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:47 PM

View PostRealtorTommy, on Dec 17 2008, 08:06 PM, said:

I've been after this for a long time....I wish some of the older claims along as the newer claims that the companies are making about porting. porting design could be tested...


they can - and that's what PunkWorks is all about :)

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:07 PM

I've definitely heard the claim that porting reduces the amount of turbulence at the end of the barrel, and becomes more critical during high rates of fire (so the next ball isn't flying through turbulent air), but again, nothing more then marketing claims to back that up.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 02:51 PM

essentially it would help for barrel tip blowback to have porting on the tip, which can be seen with compensators on high power pistols, but on actual guns the blowback is much much higher therefor the effects of the compensator are much more dramatic, a paintball exerts such little force in terms of kick that the difference could be too minimal for your hands to notice, but essentially should still work the same on a micro scale. in terms of accuracy beyond that i dont know. I would also like to know how much the grooves in the tip on barrels like the phantom do as well as the porting.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:00 PM

do they make phantom barrells in cocker thread?
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:03 PM

View Postchewiestmonkey, on Dec 18 2008, 03:00 PM, said:

do they make phantom barrells in cocker thread?

No

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:22 PM

View Postchewiestmonkey, on Dec 18 2008, 04:00 PM, said:

do they make phantom barrells in cocker thread?


some of us wish and prey, but god never answers those prayers.
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View Poststicktodrum, on 19 November 2010 - 02:44 PM, said:

And yes, Gordon is the sexiest manifestation of "to the front."

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 04:05 PM

View Postcockerpunk, on Dec 18 2008, 02:22 PM, said:

some of us wish and prey, but god never answers those prayers.


And prey? I can so see you slinking around the phantom birthing place trying to pounce upon a hapless mike grazing in his machine shop and demanding a cocker threaded barrel.
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Posted 18 December 2008 - 07:08 PM

View PostTroy, on Dec 18 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

View Postcockerpunk, on Dec 18 2008, 02:22 PM, said:

some of us wish and prey, but god never answers those prayers.


And prey? I can so see you slinking around the phantom birthing place trying to pounce upon a hapless mike grazing in his machine shop and demanding a cocker threaded barrel.


thats cause im a good predator ...
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And yes, Gordon is the sexiest manifestation of "to the front."

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 07:27 PM

View Postcockerpunk, on Dec 18 2008, 06:08 PM, said:

thats cause im a good predator ...



maybe of the "to catch a" kind.....

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 10:33 PM

View Postbrycelarson, on Dec 18 2008, 06:27 PM, said:

maybe of the "to catch a" kind.....


Its the perv beard that gives him away.
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 12:37 AM

lol yeah...they should, whoever did would make a pretty penny i think
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