[Viper Scenarios]

As I understand it the contest was set up beforehand and attempts were made, at the same place, under the same conditions. Each took a turn attempting to hit the same size target at the same distance. They had ten shots to try and hit the target. Robert was the only one to do it, with the others watching, on the fifth shot. It was all supervised by a representative from Guinness. That's all I know.

And I was explaining the economical benefits of shopping locally because you didn't seem to get why I was touting the fact that they are made in the USA. There is no need to "shout" at me.

[Ashton S]

Your caps lock was on before me sir.

[Ashton S]

Viper Scenarios, on 22 November 2011 - 11:09 AM, said:

As I understand it the contest was set up beforehand and attempts were made, at the same place, under the same conditions. Each took a turn attempting to hit the same size target at the same distance. They had ten shots to try and hit the target. Robert was the only one to do it, with the others watching, on the fifth shot. It was all supervised by a representative from Guinness. That's all I know.

And I was explaining the economical benefits of shopping locally because you didn't seem to get why I was touting the fact that they are made in the USA. There is no need to "shout" at me.

http://www.youtube.c.../50/bcF7IzabeDo

Facts?


*2x post sorry

[Viper Scenarios]

I stand on my previous statements.

* Speak to owners of them.

* Give one an honest try and evaluation.

You can argue the tech all you want, but those who use them will tell you why.

I don't give a damn what a company claims, I don't care about anyone's debunking of the technology behind it, and I don't make my decisions based upon their claims. Something either works, or it doesn't.

Hammerhead barrels outperform any other barrel or barrel kit I've tried, and there's a long list considering that I've been playing since the late eighties.

You're not going to convince me that they're crap, and I'm not going to convince you that they are superior. Only running one for a few games will convince you of that.

So, in the meantime, play safe, play fair, and try not to be so contradictory just for the sake of doing so.

[DruidicRifleman]

A phenom...

Wouldn't mind a phenom with mag kit and a drum mag

But A5 upgrades i use a zero kick hammer It's nice and i needed a replacement the front bolt is stock and the gun came with a red power tube

Spare paddles Is the only thing i can suggest

if gun starts chopping throw the paddles out and replace

Also I enjoy shooting my A5 more then my SP1 more Enjoyable shooter

An egrip is a good upgrade But i Can get sick ROF stock trigger there a good gun to have Never had mine fail me since i put new paddles in it

This post has been edited by DruidicRifleman: 22 November 2011 - 03:33 PM

[Ashton S]

You could also get the following upgrades to get the absolute top speed out of your Cyclone feed.

Cyclone Feed Sick Rod

Lapco Ratchet Upgrade

Lapco Paintball Uni-Flow Piston Housing

Those together with the Squishy paddles and the E-Grip, you will have one awesome A5

That sounds pretty dang good, if I ever go tactical now I know there are options

This post has been edited by Ashton S: 23 November 2011 - 12:00 AM

[sticktodrum]

Viper, I'm sorry, but when it comes to the application of physical law and what evidence exists to support whatever hypothesis is being pushed, personal testimony and anecdotes mean pretty much nothing.

The tropes of "those that try it buy it" are trumpeted by a lot of people selling a lot of bogus nonsense. Just take a look at alternative medicine. Experience doesn't really mean much when you're making claims that are scientifically testable.

I myself have used Hammerhead barrels plenty of times, for extended periods of time. It's just another barrel, but with a higher price tag and some really silly marketing. That company plays on people's ignorance of physics, and I take a personal issue with those kinds of ethics. It isn't superior really to anything, and its price makes it an inferior choice for consumers.

I think if more people paid attention in their physics classes, some of these companies wouldn't be doing so well.

[Ashton S]

sticktodrum, on 22 November 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

Viper, I'm sorry, but when it comes to the application of physical law and what evidence exists to support whatever hypothesis is being pushed, personal testimony and anecdotes mean pretty much nothing.

The tropes of "those that try it buy it" are trumpeted by a lot of people selling a lot of bogus nonsense. Just take a look at alternative medicine. Experience doesn't really mean much when you're making claims that are scientifically testable.

I myself have used Hammerhead barrels plenty of times, for extended periods of time. It's just another barrel, but with a higher price tag and some really silly marketing. That company plays on people's ignorance of physics, and I take a personal issue with those kinds of ethics. It isn't superior really to anything, and its price makes it an inferior choice for consumers.

I think if more people paid attention in their physics classes, some of these companies wouldn't be doing so well.

More truth?

It cant be

This post has been edited by Ashton S: 22 November 2011 - 11:29 PM

[Viper Scenarios]

I defer to the wisdom of the fine posters above.

This post has been edited by Viper Scenarios: 22 November 2011 - 11:35 PM

[pb=life]

I'd like to get my hands on a hammerhead just to try it out and see if it does make any real noticeable difference, I just pray that I don't break a ball in the barrel. I heard they're a bitch to clean

[Cap'n Biff]

Hey All,

Y'know, it's a shame there isn't a batting-cage style set-up somewhere that you could go and "try before you buy" with set-ups of different markers, barrels and paint...

I'd drop $100 for an hour in something like that; would've saved me twice as much in buying barrels and paint I ended up hating (not to mention all the time wasted cleaning...).

[Ashton S]

Cap, on 23 November 2011 - 04:20 AM, said:

Hey All,

Y'know, it's a shame there isn't a batting-cage style set-up somewhere that you could go and "try before you buy" with set-ups of different markers, barrels and paint...

I'd drop $100 for an hour in something like that; would've saved me twice as much in buying barrels and paint I ended up hating (not to mention all the time wasted cleaning...).

That is Seriously a good idea!

I never would have bought that dang JnJ Ceramic or that Spyder Electra 09

[Bravotv]

Viper Scenarios, on 22 November 2011 - 11:33 PM, said:

I defer to the wisdom of the fine posters above.

sorry, i often fail my pont because of my poor writing

[Lizards]

Hey there. Ive had an a5 for 3 years and what ive put on it works great for me.


- spongy paddles
- low profile hopper
- apex 2, flatline, j&j 16 inch (all work great)
- picitiny top rail (allows you to see the red dot with a mask on)
- red dot
- m4 style sliding stock, project salvo folding adjustable stock (both great)
- good mask (v-force profilers are amazing)
- carbon tank (im working on that one)
- remote line
- response trigger (if you wanna lay down fire, my e-trigger broke and tippmann couldnt fix it no refund so thats why i say response)
- buffer O ring in the back (helps with the noise and preserves the end cap)


ps: A5 doesn't kick hardly at all especially with a stock, its like a .22 cartridge cut in half with a buffer in the stock. no kick.

[Doc Ski]

Er if your gonna get a a5 just get a barrel and a hpa tank....once your done doing all the upgrades you could have bought a high end marker.



someone is a little on the passionate side with hammerhead barrels lol............

[J_DUB]

Maybe it was already said but if you want an extra couple of fps when shooting, go with a flatline barrel they are very good and come in a couple different styles.

[andrewthewookie]

The flatline will not add FPS, all it does is put backspin on the paintball. If you want to do that, get the Apex 2 instead. It's much less picky on paint, you can adjust how much spin is put on the paintballs, and you can change the direction of the spin.

This post has been edited by andrewthewookie: 14 December 2011 - 12:35 AM

[Tacobush]

Flatline barrel or the apex barrel is a most

[dhockey11]

Viper Scenarios, on 22 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I stand on my previous statements.

* Speak to owners of them.

* Give one an honest try and evaluation.

You can argue the tech all you want, but those who use them will tell you why.

I don't give a damn what a company claims, I don't care about anyone's debunking of the technology behind it, and I don't make my decisions based upon their claims. Something either works, or it doesn't.

Hammerhead barrels outperform any other barrel or barrel kit I've tried, and there's a long list considering that I've been playing since the late eighties.

You're not going to convince me that they're crap, and I'm not going to convince you that they are superior. Only running one for a few games will convince you of that.

So, in the meantime, play safe, play fair, and try not to be so contradictory just for the sake of doing so.

I don't think anyone here is contradicting u for the sake of argument. Disagreeing happens, and since this is a forum, it is the appropriate place for that.

I HAVE used a hammerhead barrel so here is my opinion. The barrel is just fine. I didn't see any noticeable improvement in accuracy or range while playing with it. I found the rifling to have sharp edeges, so it could potentially break brittle paint, although I had no issue with that (using draxxus field). My major complaint was when I did break a ball, I was fucked until I got to a sink to clean it. Cleaned up fine with water, but my squegee didn't do the trick. That combined with the above average price and below average aesthetics had me looking elsewhere for my new barrel purchase.

On the world record thing...its not physically possible to shoot one object with the exact same mass, shape, and velocity, farther than another. Clearly a variable was changed, wittingly or not, to make this happen.

[Ashton S]

AMERICA