[Dragon1291]

Hello, I've been trying to find more information about this Marker but nothing conclusive has come up. Seems like a lot of personal preferences or some other opinion, but nothing definitive.

Anyways, can someone tell me more about the E1? Like reliability, efficiency, how it feels.

First off, Don't post unless you have actually owned and used the marker for more than a month.

Second, Don't post if you only will say "Oh it's a $#!7 marker, get a Rail instead."

Keep this on topic, keep this about the E1.

[510waffles]

i feel like youre just trying to convince yourself to buy the E1 or find one person that likes it in order to not feel guilt if you decide to make the wrong decision.. Weve given our opinions on the other threads that you have posted.

Just again to recap

Efficiency- similar to the Tippman98
Reliability- The gun is dump valve similar to the G4. The G4 has bolt stick issues,tons of board issues such as battery draining, not to mention DP has the worst track record in universe.
Comfort- The thing has panel grips. Not the best feel in the world


Theres not very much information on this marker because its not a good marker. The milling on it is poor the whole design is just a G4 that was made cheaper and just check the Dangerous Power subforum. Half the threads are about problems that reoccur and are difficult to fix.

Were not telling you these things because we are lying to you. We're doing this because we've been where you are right now before, and we dont want you to make the same mistakes we did.

[REDCOBRA]

Okay so i've used mine for 3 times and here's what i've gathered

~500 psi = ~1 pod

oil it like a mofo its bolt sticks A LOT

oil the solenoid o-rings

the feedneck sucks hardcore, the orings dont work well and chances are they will be mangled when you put the hopper on it. put tape on the hopper feedneck and it will be golden.

The trigger feels weird to me , it makes my hand go spastic when i try to walk on it. but thats just me

DO NOT MESS WITH THE TRIGGER

sometimes you will get leaks from the barrel a second shot will fix it

I got mine for 85$ used and i wouldn't pay a dollar more for it..

[Dragon1291]

510waffles, on 06 August 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

i feel like youre just trying to convince yourself to buy the E1 or find one person that likes it in order to not feel guilt if you decide to make the wrong decision.. Weve given our opinions on the other threads that you have posted.

Just again to recap

Efficiency- similar to the Tippman98
Reliability- The gun is dump valve similar to the G4. The G4 has bolt stick issues,tons of board issues such as battery draining, not to mention DP has the worst track record in universe.
Comfort- The thing has panel grips. Not the best feel in the world


Theres not very much information on this marker because its not a good marker. The milling on it is poor the whole design is just a G4 that was made cheaper and just check the Dangerous Power subforum. Half the threads are about problems that reoccur and are difficult to fix.

Were not telling you these things because we are lying to you. We're doing this because we've been where you are right now before, and we dont want you to make the same mistakes we did.

Have you actually owned the marker?
I don't really care about milling.
And considering that the g4 is DP's main marker, not surprised that the subforum is filled with threads about the problem.

REDCOBRA, on 06 August 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

Okay so i've used mine for 3 times and here's what i've gathered

~500 psi = ~1 pod

oil it like a mofo its bolt sticks A LOT

oil the solenoid o-rings

the feedneck sucks hardcore, the orings dont work well and chances are they will be mangled when you put the hopper on it. put tape on the hopper feedneck and it will be golden.

The trigger feels weird to me , it makes my hand go spastic when i try to walk on it. but thats just me

DO NOT MESS WITH THE TRIGGER

sometimes you will get leaks from the barrel a second shot will fix it

I got mine for 85$ used and i wouldn't pay a dollar more for it..

Thank you very much for your input! It's much appreciated. The ~500 psi = ~1 pod is on what sized tank?

[Makushin]

Tank size is irrelevant.
500 psi = 500 psi, and I doubt you will be finding very many positive reviews of the e1 here.

[spqr-king]

Why would you not want alternatives are you that set on buying it? I mean for the price range there are better markers so why not let people give you useful information.... 2 cents for you sir.

[Dragon1291]

I just want information about the marker.
If you were looking for information about say, world war 2, or a BMW, wouldn't you be a little frustrated when people would suggest other things such as Vietnam War or a Ford???

I'm looking for people who have actually used the marker, who have actually owned the marker. Seem like a lot of the replies I get are people who have only watched mike's video.



Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

This post has been edited by Dragon1291: 06 August 2012 - 12:38 PM

[REDCOBRA]

Dragon1291, on 06 August 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

I just want information about the marker.
If you were looking for information about say, world war 2, or a BMW, wouldn't you be a little frustrated when people would suggest other things such as Vietnam War or a Ford???

I'm looking for people who have actually used the marker, who have actually owned the marker. Seem like a lot of the replies I get are people who have only watched mike's video.



Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

Mike thought it was the bee's knees when it first came out and a few months ago he pointed out how bad it was (That's where everyone is getting their opinion from). The reason for that is that new lower price range markers went up for sale now and some are better than the E1. I myself wouldn't recomend the E1 because i've had some experience with it and don't completely like it, I would recomend a GOG something or an azodin, but if you just play rec-ball it is good cheap marker.

Tank size has nothing to do with psi output. The size just changes the amount of air held.

[newwestswag]

Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

No, nobody said that.

This post has been edited by newwestswag: 06 August 2012 - 01:14 PM

[Dragon1291]

REDCOBRA, on 06 August 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dragon1291, on 06 August 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

I just want information about the marker.
If you were looking for information about say, world war 2, or a BMW, wouldn't you be a little frustrated when people would suggest other things such as Vietnam War or a Ford???

I'm looking for people who have actually used the marker, who have actually owned the marker. Seem like a lot of the replies I get are people who have only watched mike's video.



Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

Mike thought it was the bee's knees when it first came out and a few months ago he pointed out how bad it was (That's where everyone is getting their opinion from). The reason for that is that new lower price range markers went up for sale now and some are better than the E1. I myself wouldn't recomend the E1 because i've had some experience with it and don't completely like it, I would recomend a GOG something or an azodin, but if you just play rec-ball it is good cheap marker.

Tank size has nothing to do with psi output. The size just changes the amount of air held.

On a scale from 1 - 10 how reliable would you way it is? And yes, just looking for a recball marker. Not going to go into any tournaments. Just good old recball fun with the occasional scenario game.


Can I ask what is the actual efficiency? Like what tank you were using and such. Thank you very much for your time mate.

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newwestswag, on 06 August 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

No, nobody said that.

Makushin, on 06 August 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

Tank size is irrelevant.
500 psi = 500 psi, and I doubt you will be finding very many positive reviews of the e1 here.

[unfated33]

Dragon1291, on 06 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

REDCOBRA, on 06 August 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Dragon1291, on 06 August 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

I just want information about the marker.
If you were looking for information about say, world war 2, or a BMW, wouldn't you be a little frustrated when people would suggest other things such as Vietnam War or a Ford???

I'm looking for people who have actually used the marker, who have actually owned the marker. Seem like a lot of the replies I get are people who have only watched mike's video.



Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

Mike thought it was the bee's knees when it first came out and a few months ago he pointed out how bad it was (That's where everyone is getting their opinion from). The reason for that is that new lower price range markers went up for sale now and some are better than the E1. I myself wouldn't recomend the E1 because i've had some experience with it and don't completely like it, I would recomend a GOG something or an azodin, but if you just play rec-ball it is good cheap marker.

Tank size has nothing to do with psi output. The size just changes the amount of air held.

On a scale from 1 - 10 how reliable would you way it is? And yes, just looking for a recball marker. Not going to go into any tournaments. Just good old recball fun with the occasional scenario game.


Can I ask what is the actual efficiency? Like what tank you were using and such. Thank you very much for your time mate.

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newwestswag, on 06 August 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

No, nobody said that.

Makushin, on 06 August 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

Tank size is irrelevant.
500 psi = 500 psi, and I doubt you will be finding very many positive reviews of the e1 here.

Ah ha! I've been looking for an opportunity to bring out advice like this: If you're just going to be playing rec ball with an occasional scenario, then you should go with a good mechanical marker. There's really no reason to need an electro and it will save you on the cost of batteries for your marker (and maybe your loader, too).

The Tippman line isn't necessarily bad for this, but I personally like the black and digi-camo Azodin Kaos or the black/gold Azodin Kaos Deluxe. The performance difference between the E1 and these mechanical markers isn't going to be very far off and you'll be saving money for paint/entry/other equipment by choosing a mech over the E1.

[Dragon1291]

Already have a mech marker, a pump, and a PGP in my gearbag. I wanted something that could sling paint at a fairly decent clip.

[spqr-king]

Dragon1291, on 06 August 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

I just want information about the marker.
If you were looking for information about say, world war 2, or a BMW, wouldn't you be a little frustrated when people would suggest other things such as Vietnam War or a Ford???

I'm looking for people who have actually used the marker, who have actually owned the marker. Seem like a lot of the replies I get are people who have only watched mike's video.



Tank size does matter. are you saying a 45/4500 is the same as a 68/4500 since the PSI is the same???

If I ask about a BMW and its utter shite I would like someone to suggest other comparable models... Not that the marker is shit that a just for example.

[510waffles]

so pretty much what youre saying is that you want someone to be a salesman for the E1.

The BETTER G4 gets 7 pods out of a 68/4500 which is pretty terrible as tippman guns get better than that. The E1 is a DOWNGRADED version of the G4.

Also, the problems with G4 are huge manufacturing problems. The put shitty lube throughout the gun, it clogs solenoids, makes the bolt and pistons stick, and many other problems. DP guns have in the box issues.

I also dont understand how youre telling us that were "rude" and give you "bs answers" when multiple people have explained clearly why E1 is not a good gun for the amount of money that you pay.

This post has been edited by 510waffles: 06 August 2012 - 07:29 PM

[Dragon1291]

510waffles, on 06 August 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

i feel like youre just trying to convince yourself to buy the E1 or find one person that likes it in order to not feel guilt if you decide to make the wrong decision.. Weve given our opinions on the other threads that you have posted.

510waffles, on 06 August 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

so pretty much what youre saying is that you want someone to be a salesman for the E1.

^^ That;'s fairly rude, is it not?

And when people are simply reiterating what mike says in his videos, I kinda feel that that is a BS response. Don't make comments about the marker unless you have used it. Explaining how it's like a G4- That's Helpful. Making snide comments-not helpful.

Especially when you consider that in the good old days of TechPB people could get on, get a non-BS answer to their question, and simply move on from there with more research. NOwadays it just seems that people post long tangents that have nothing to do with the original post or what the OP wanted. Oh how times have changed in only so few years.

[Hitman2513]

I've had 3 months of experience with the E1 I can already tell you the GoG eNVy is better and I'm glad I didn't buy that E1.

When I first started my friend gave me his E1 to borrow. I had the chance to get a Prophecy v2 but the feedneck didn't fit so I got an eggy not bad but v2 is better. The feedneck o rings were crap so I wrapped the eggs feedneck with electrical tape so it was barely useable. The thing got bolt stick pretty bad so I used a lot of oil instead of grease and try fired a few shots without the barrel to get rid of the excess oil. The board is crap and doesn't even have ramping. The trigger is okay but felt kinda cheap. I needed a new battery every 2 weekends. I had like 4 pods off a steelie. Dangerous Power has crap CS.

There's pretty much all the bad. Now for the good
It's really small similar but not as bad as a mini. It's got nice grips. It's got an easy to turn asa but I don't like that the hose is on the left side. It's anodizing is amazing for how cheap the gun is.

In the end get a GoG eNVy for a bit more, an eXTCy would be far better than both however. The thing looks cool but just isn't worth the price for a gun that's fairly unreliable.

[NoLimitsOnLife]

what they're saying isnt opinion, its fact. Its a fact that the E1 has bolt stick. it a fact that the E1 has terrible efficiency. Its a fact that the feedneck is terrible. i'v never owned one but a friend let me use his for a day when my gun went down. its a very tiny gun, so its very easy to play tight especially if you you use a 12" or 8" barrel. ergonomics are just terrible IMO. The feedneck is garbage. multiple times i had my hopper go rolling down the field. Over the chrono i was getting 30+- so very inconsistent. was also appeared to be rough on paint. i was using GI 4 star and it would always break paint when i shot 8+ bps. not sure if it was the eyes or what but it wasn't my loader cause it was working on my gun earlier that day. this was my experience with the gun.

[Dragon1291]

Thank you all very much for your thoughts/experiences on the Marker.

BIg killer for me would be the Bolt Stick Issue. Everything else is pretty minor (I dont care about board modes AT ALL, Feedneck can be replaced fairly cheap, Ergos I don't Care I'm an adaptable person)

Guess back onto the search/wait.

[REDCOBRA]

You guys should've read the OP's post. all he wanted to know was information about the DP e1. give him that then suggest other things. If the marker is shit then just give the information and the OP can figure that out on his own. This is in the newbie forum take it easy.

[Hitman2513]

Like I said GoG eNVy has everything it lacks and more