[The-Phantom]

drg, on 03 October 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

get.lit.up!, on 02 October 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

Yea cause its just a semi with a pump that just loads a ball then you pump it

Sorry but that's just dumb. That's like calling a sniper an autococker that you pump.

that's not what a sniper is?

This post has been edited by The-Phantom: 03 October 2012 - 02:00 PM

[drg]

The-Phantom, on 03 October 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

drg, on 03 October 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

get.lit.up!, on 02 October 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

Yea cause its just a semi with a pump that just loads a ball then you pump it

Sorry but that's just dumb. That's like calling a sniper an autococker that you pump.

that's not what a sniper is?

die lol

[get.lit.up!]

drg, on 03 October 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

get.lit.up!, on 02 October 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

Yea cause its just a semi with a pump that just loads a ball then you pump it

Sorry but that's just dumb. That's like calling a sniper an autococker that you pump.

But it fires whenever you pull the trigger, and you pull the pump to load the ball into the breech? I don't get how im dumb, shouldn't be the other way around since you didn't watch the video on how the pump works?

[The-Phantom]

let's be civil people here... calling someone dumb is almost never constructive, or a valid reasoning behind an argument



...especially when there is no truly "right answer" there is disagreement on this amongst the entire pump community, it's really opinionated if you ask me.

[drg]

No, actually there is a right answer. A gun that does not automatically load is NOT a semi. That's the definition of semi.
So if you have to manually load the ball, there is nothing -- nothing -- semi about the gun.

[The-Phantom]

drg, on 04 October 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

No, actually there is a right answer. A gun that does not automatically load is NOT a semi. That's the definition of semi.
So if you have to manually load the ball, there is nothing -- nothing -- semi about the gun.

but on the same token, the definition of pump is where there is more of a dispute. Hence the sub-forum in which we are all posting in.

Does a gun have to be manually pumped in order to load air into the chamber in order for a shot to be cycled? or, is pump only manually moving an object back to enable the ball to drop into a breach. Regardless of your stance on this issue, there is not 1 answer all tournament operators or players alike agree on.

[drg]

The-Phantom, on 04 October 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

drg, on 04 October 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

No, actually there is a right answer. A gun that does not automatically load is NOT a semi. That's the definition of semi.
So if you have to manually load the ball, there is nothing -- nothing -- semi about the gun.

but on the same token, the definition of pump is where there is more of a dispute. Hence the sub-forum in which we are all posting in.

Does a gun have to be manually pumped in order to load air into the chamber in order for a shot to be cycled? or, is pump only manually moving an object back to enable the ball to drop into a breach. Regardless of your stance on this issue, there is not 1 answer all tournament operators or players alike agree on.

We're not talking about the definition of pump, someone tried to call the phantom revolution a semi with a pump. That is, in fact, dumb.

[get.lit.up!]

Well lets spin it this way. I go buy a cyclone feed for a tippmann 98c, install it without the air hose attached. Will I effectively have a semi but have to pump it to load the ball into the breech?

Think carefully drg

[drg]

get.lit.up!, on 05 October 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

Well lets spin it this way. I go buy a cyclone feed for a tippmann 98c, install it without the air hose attached. Will I effectively have a semi but have to pump it to load the ball into the breech?

Think carefully drg

What are you talking about? If a marker does not automatically load, it is not operating semiautomatically. Furthermore if it is incapable of semiautomatic operation, as this gun is, it is NOT A SEMIAUTOMATIC GUN. Don't think carefully, you don't have to. It's black and white.

This post has been edited by drg: 05 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

[Pump Player]

Everyone stop argueing. Who cares if it was raised by a dm 12 and a ccm, that sounds awesome too me and if I had 700 I would buy one

[drg]

Pump Player, on 05 October 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

Everyone stop argueing. Who cares if it was raised by a dm 12 and a ccm, that sounds awesome too me and if I had 700 I would buy one

Who's arguing? There's nothing to argue.

[The-Phantom]

*sighs*

/enoughflamewar

[bassfisher]

The-Phantom, on 06 October 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

*sighs*

/enoughflamewar

This

[drg]

Sorry. It just really gets me when I see pump players hate. Hating should not be part of the pump ethic.

[o-baller]

smoke14, on 01 October 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

The-Phantom, on 30 September 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

smoke14, on 30 September 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Not trying to hate, but is there anything new on the Revolution compared to the Phantom, besides the mini pump handle and new valve system? I know it comes with barrel sizers and a hopper adapter but honestly I don't see anything worth justifying $650+ on it. Is there something I'm missing or is all the rest of the money spent on it just for the looks?

erm... that's kind of a major change... That's similar to asking:

"so like whats the difference between like, a phantom and sniper other than that whole valve thing?"

Sure it's different, but what I'm trying to get at is that a new valve system, pump handle and barrel sizers are going to automatically throw $300 onto it?

No... its not. For that matter, no pump is, being that they are inferior to electros in every measurable feature. Its only worth it if you want it to be.

[Pump Player]

lol i started this so long ago. im suprised people are still posting in it

[drg]

o-baller, on 15 October 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

No... its not. For that matter, no pump is, being that they are inferior to electros in every measurable feature.

Well that's not true at all.

[The-Phantom]

Can prevent FORUM fires... /isthisflamingstillgoingon?

[o-baller]

drg, on 16 October 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

o-baller, on 15 October 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

No... its not. For that matter, no pump is, being that they are inferior to electros in every measurable feature.

Well that's not true at all.

You took my post out of context. My point was that any pump is inferior to any electro in terms of capability. BUT a $600 pump is definitely worth it to some people (I would put myself in that boat).

Either way, its unimportant

This post has been edited by o-baller: 17 October 2012 - 11:41 PM

[Pump Player]

The-Phantom, on 17 October 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

Can prevent FORUM fires... /isthisflamingstillgoingon?

this