[Pump Player]

But not worth the price

[drg]

Pump Player, on 07 October 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

But not worth the price

You have no objective backup for that statement.

[gospeedgo1]

drg, on 07 October 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

You have no objective backup for that statement.

i can though. it is overpriced for what you currently are getting. it just is not a fully polished product.

-it farts, i cannot get the farting to stop even with using the other springs. even with lightest spring, seems to cause a bit of "kick" for lack of a better term even when dry firing without air. bob needs to release a better matched spring set.
-it is an open class marker, but the hammer spring stiffness is not much lighter than a phantom. it should be just as light or pretty close to a CCM or green madmann spring'd sniper.
-grips with a led light hole. i understand parts sharing, but this marker does not use batteries. make grips without that, makes it look cheap for such a high price tag.
-anno does not look very durable, seems to scratch easily compared to my other markers and stuff.
-spring detent still allows double feeds, probably needs a larger spring
-i am running into issues with barrel breaks with tourney paint, when snipers with same tank, barrel, fps do not have breaks. i had some previously, but was still getting used to the marker. my phantom had issues with barrel breaks with tourney paint also, but probably due to the high operating pressure.
-issues with trigger sticking popping up, handle does not always return all the way back, does not let marker fire until you force the handle back. allen screws are all tight and loctite'd
-should come with his two piece barrel or a barrel kit with two starter bore sizes since pumps have issues with roll outs.
-sear catches with bolt about 1/2-3/4 back.

other than the above complaints, it is a great marker.
-feels balanced and great in hands, points well
-pump stroke is very smooth with very little play
-cool valvetrain, reg layout
-on/off is easy to use
-pretty simple to take apart, even the reg
-grip tape is nice when your hands have paint, mud, or bunker goo on them.
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This post has been edited by gospeedgo1: 09 October 2012 - 12:05 AM

[drg]

gospeedgo1, on 09 October 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

drg, on 07 October 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

You have no objective backup for that statement.

i can though. it is overpriced for what you currently are getting. it just is not a fully polished product.

-it farts, i cannot get the farting to stop even with using the other springs. even with lightest spring, seems to cause a bit of "kick" for lack of a better term even when dry firing without air. bob needs to release a better matched spring set.
-it is an open class marker, but the hammer spring stiffness is not much lighter than a phantom. it should be just as light or pretty close to a CCM or green madmann spring'd sniper.
-grips with a led light hole. i understand parts sharing, but this marker does not use batteries. make grips without that, makes it look cheap for such a high price tag.
-anno does not look very durable, seems to scratch easily compared to my other markers and stuff.
-spring detent still allows double feeds, probably needs a larger spring
-i am running into issues with barrel breaks with tourney paint, when snipers with same tank, barrel, fps do not have breaks. i had some previously, but was still getting used to the marker. my phantom had issues with barrel breaks with tourney paint also, but probably due to the high operating pressure.
-issues with trigger sticking popping up, handle does not always return all the way back, does not let marker fire until you force the handle back. allen screws are all tight and loctite'd
-should come with his two piece barrel or a barrel kit with two starter bore sizes since pumps have issues with roll outs.
-sear catches with bolt about 1/2-3/4 back.

other than the above complaints, it is a great marker.
-feels balanced and great in hands, points well
-pump stroke is very smooth with very little play
-cool valvetrain, reg layout
-on/off is easy to use
-pretty simple to take apart, even the reg
-grip tape is nice when your hands have paint, mud, or bunker goo on them.
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None of which objectively proves the statement, because the MVP is a unique marker, a unique design and a unique vintage. There is really nothing to compare it to besides other high ends, all of which have the benefit of being derivative designs based on literally last-generation platforms. Mind you I do not personally own an MVP so I have no dog in the fight, however I think my area might have the highest per-capita MVP ownership rate. High-end nelsons have similar issues, so performance is mostly moot, and aside from the LED light hole in the grip, nothing about this marker indicates spared expense.

I am also ridiculously jealous of the left coast mvp pump handle.

[Shamrock905]

If you want an expensive open class gun get a CCM....small tank, small hopper, and you're golden.