[NBTIppy]

Drama? in paintball?! no way!!! I don't believe it.

I don't care for social paintball or vanguard so I'm indifferent.

[Jarz]

Besides the money, the politics of tournament paintball do make me hesitant. At least in scenario/recball, I don't have to deal with any of the bickering or politics within it (I personally don't). If I started playing tournaments, with the local business owners I know, there could be conflict.

[MZinCamo]

Immaturity

Immaturity everywhere

[Rotozip2]

MZinCamo, on 12 January 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

Immaturity

Immaturity everywhere

Pretty much.

[cybermaniac15]

drexler, on 12 January 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

Cpt Bebop, on 12 January 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

.... Another strike for NPPL. Wish I liked ramp play so I could be proud of the league style I play

Honestly I prefer the NPPL. Refs are so much better then the garbage ones in the lower psp divisions.

Well most of the pro and divisional refs at Vegas were garbage..

[NBTIppy]

LOL I just read through all the comments and argueing on Facebook.

Basically, Frank made a reasonable request, Social Paintball stubbornly refused without any real reason then Frank went into 13 year old kid mode and started going at them over Facebook.
I think it could have been handled better on both sides, it would have taken Social Paintball 2 seconds to remove the post and post a new status explaining the situation. But on the flip side, even though Frank's anger is valid, how he chose to vent that anger was extremely immature and as a result misrepresented his brand. Poor decisions were made by both parties and in the end have only hurt themselves. But trying to look at the bright side of this, PSP just gained more supporters and another exclusive media source in Social Paintball.

[Cpt Bebop]

Whoops, mobile double-post

This post has been edited by Cpt Bebop: 13 January 2013 - 12:44 AM

[Cpt Bebop]

Orange, given your relationship with Frank do you think you might be a touch biased?

Social is arguably on of the biggest promoters of the sport and banning them for an entire year for not changing info for 30 minutes seems like well beyond reasonable.

Again, I have no dog in this fight. Love NPPL, have since the late 90's, and the things they do to legitimate professional paintball cannot be ignored. Just for arguments sake though imagine if the NFL banned sports illustrated from coverage for one year because si.com said the superbowl was on january 22nd incorrectly, especially if that was the date roger Goodell told them it would be one half hour earlier

[andrewthewookie]

Sometimes though, you just need to go all 13 year old on someone who's being unreasonable, if it's the only way to get their attention.

[TECHDP=)]

Maybe a suspension ? Like only one event would have been better.

[Irish725]

This is why I play scenario .

[Trum_15]

andrewthewookie, on 12 January 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

What I want to know is, why Social would leave incorrect dates up?

Because the Denver and Tampa events were still news. They clearly said the dates were wrong, and would add the right dates when they were released.

I think nppl should have made a statement and just release the correct dates after they noticed they messed up.. Rather then just let frank go nuts all over facebook, and make the league look stupid.

[TechPB-Mike]

just give it a week or two

Once the NPPL and Social Paintball start communicating again, things will get resolved

Don't you remember the bullshit rumor on PBN a few years ago, where I/TechPB supposedly was "banned from Extravaganza" for photographing the event? Three emails later, it was all resolved

Just give it a week or two

[elo160]

i saw the argument and Frank did come across as hotheaded. I think he reacted too swiftly and this won't be good publicity for the NPPL

[Master_Chief]

I could imagine a lot of effort is put into the NPPL by Frank. It's a pretty big accomplishment to get paintball to the venues it is at today and I could imagine that he would want it to be as close to perfect as it could, who wouldn't?

That being said, Social Paintball was kinda in a situation of arguing with a ref in basketball, you will never win and all you are doing is making yourself look bad. Don't get me wrong Frank's response wasn't the best but the fact of the matter is both sides were not doing what would be the best way to handle the situation. I can understand both sides and I don't think anyone was right.

I could defiantly see the NPPL changing the way Social is reprimanded after some communication and the situation cools down. It seems like a lot of this drama in paintball is either miscommunication with a lot of immaturity resulting from that. I hope someday that league owners realize that a lot of what they do reflects paintball as a whole.

[slinkyaroo]

Meh. If I was running an event and accidentally posted the wrong info for a couple of hours before finding the mistake the last thing I would want to do is have people posting it and not willing to remove the mistake unless I meet their demands. I would be angry too.

If I had a party and somebody on Facebook posted the wrong date, even after I corrected them, I don't think I would want them involved in the event.

Right to free speech is great ... If people check their facts before opening their mouth.

[TheGuy]

lol dgaf

[cocker addict]

I may be slightly bias but from what I saw Frank clearly ask social over 10 times politely to delete the post. False information gets around like wild fire and everyone else in the paintball community gladly deleted the post because the information was incorrect. Social kept it up for the drama and "hit" count on their facebook page.

[The Knife Crazy]

i wouldn't be surprised if this blows over. I mean NPPL and Social need each other to stay around and this whole split will hurt both the sport and the tournaments.

[slinkyaroo]

Nppl doesn't need socialpb. Teams already know about nppl.