[GeezusPB]

I'd like to see a really nice pump.... DMP!

This post has been edited by GeezusPB: 06 March 2013 - 10:19 AM

[Irish725]

Is....is it bad that I would totally buy a marker that had celtic knot work design on the frame? I think on like an Axe or an Ego that'd be sick as hell...

[Poopfairy35]

Nobben #44, on 06 March 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

Why do they have to make a poppet marker? It makes no sense at all, there's no point for them to do so. And why bother with the waste of putting a screen on the board because you're too lazy to count flashes?
I've been a big PE fan for ages, and shot their markers as long, if not longer than Dye's. The screen is pointless. Every marker I've had with a screen made me feel it has an unnecessary gadget that I never need on it.
Let's not get started at the whole macro less movement, I've played paintball for years and I've owned over 40 high ends, some without macorlines, again, it's pointless, the hose has never, ever been in the way of anything.


I hope they make a new NT that is reliable and a Rotor that's even better than the one they have now.

I'm going to say this lot. At that price point, you can't have those little things that bug you, and it's a marketing necessity to keep up with the competition. Just look in the price bracket for all of the new markers at paintball extravaganza. Planet went micro less, & empire threw in an LCD screen. If dye is going to make a marker every year, they should do something with it other than milling, or not make a new marker.

[Nobben #44]

Poopfairy35, on 06 March 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Nobben #44, on 06 March 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

Why do they have to make a poppet marker? It makes no sense at all, there's no point for them to do so. And why bother with the waste of putting a screen on the board because you're too lazy to count flashes?
I've been a big PE fan for ages, and shot their markers as long, if not longer than Dye's. The screen is pointless. Every marker I've had with a screen made me feel it has an unnecessary gadget that I never need on it.
Let's not get started at the whole macro less movement, I've played paintball for years and I've owned over 40 high ends, some without macorlines, again, it's pointless, the hose has never, ever been in the way of anything.


I hope they make a new NT that is reliable and a Rotor that's even better than the one they have now.

I'm going to say this lot. At that price point, you can't have those little things that bug you, and it's a marketing necessity to keep up with the competition. Just look in the price bracket for all of the new markers at paintball extravaganza. Planet went micro less, & empire threw in an LCD screen. If dye is going to make a marker every year, they should do something with it other than milling, or not make a new marker.

Some people care about performance and a comfortable grip, not a pointless Screen.
And a macroline really make things simpler. It doesn't matter, so they doesn't have to do either to "keep up with the competition".

So my point still stands.

[Soldier of Fortune]

scmillman, on 05 March 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

Soldier of Fortune, on 05 March 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

junits15, on 05 March 2013 - 10:19 PM, said:

I wanna see a marker that sticks out

Ever play the dorrito with a DM?

??? I've done it with a PM8, and didn't find it any better or worse than any other gun in a dorito....

Sarcasm was intended when you see after a post. Besides the DM conpared to other spoolies in its price range is a fricken boat.

[Poopfairy35]

Nobben #44, on 06 March 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Poopfairy35, on 06 March 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Nobben #44, on 06 March 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

Why do they have to make a poppet marker? It makes no sense at all, there's no point for them to do so. And why bother with the waste of putting a screen on the board because you're too lazy to count flashes?
I've been a big PE fan for ages, and shot their markers as long, if not longer than Dye's. The screen is pointless. Every marker I've had with a screen made me feel it has an unnecessary gadget that I never need on it.
Let's not get started at the whole macro less movement, I've played paintball for years and I've owned over 40 high ends, some without macorlines, again, it's pointless, the hose has never, ever been in the way of anything.


I hope they make a new NT that is reliable and a Rotor that's even better than the one they have now.

I'm going to say this lot. At that price point, you can't have those little things that bug you, and it's a marketing necessity to keep up with the competition. Just look in the price bracket for all of the new markers at paintball extravaganza. Planet went micro less, & empire threw in an LCD screen. If dye is going to make a marker every year, they should do something with it other than milling, or not make a new marker.

Some people care about performance and a comfortable grip, not a pointless Screen.
And a macroline really make things simpler. It doesn't matter, so they doesn't have to do either to "keep up with the competition".

So my point still stands.

Your point would still stand if dm13s weren't $1,300 & unchanged performance wise from the dm10

[Lime]

Poopfairy35, on 06 March 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Nobben #44, on 06 March 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Poopfairy35, on 06 March 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Nobben #44, on 06 March 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

Why do they have to make a poppet marker? It makes no sense at all, there's no point for them to do so. And why bother with the waste of putting a screen on the board because you're too lazy to count flashes?
I've been a big PE fan for ages, and shot their markers as long, if not longer than Dye's. The screen is pointless. Every marker I've had with a screen made me feel it has an unnecessary gadget that I never need on it.
Let's not get started at the whole macro less movement, I've played paintball for years and I've owned over 40 high ends, some without macorlines, again, it's pointless, the hose has never, ever been in the way of anything.


I hope they make a new NT that is reliable and a Rotor that's even better than the one they have now.

I'm going to say this lot. At that price point, you can't have those little things that bug you, and it's a marketing necessity to keep up with the competition. Just look in the price bracket for all of the new markers at paintball extravaganza. Planet went micro less, & empire threw in an LCD screen. If dye is going to make a marker every year, they should do something with it other than milling, or not make a new marker.

Some people care about performance and a comfortable grip, not a pointless Screen.
And a macroline really make things simpler. It doesn't matter, so they doesn't have to do either to "keep up with the competition".

So my point still stands.

Your point would still stand if dm13s weren't $1,300 & unchanged performance wise from the dm10

His point stands regardless because people still buy the DMs.

[Jawz]

Word of an NT13 has been circulating for a while? A couple of my teammates and I had a discussion with a more "recognized" team who claimed they talked to Dye techs at world cup about it. So it'll be nice to find out

[TJO]

Eventualy dye will gave to adapt or die so to speak there are spool valve guns that blow it out of the water. The 2013 demon comes to mind. It needs some work on the reliability aspect which I believe the new version addressed. Once all the fanboys unbiasedly shoot these other guns dye will take a hit. Assuming we call performance on par between the d m and demon. The small features matter. The oled And macroless will make the difference

[Akkadian_Tim]

Dye won't change anything until they start losing enough of the market to warrant releasing a new product. They're not obligated to make something new, and neither is anyone else.

The only reason companies develop new products is because they think that they can take up a part of the market they did not previously possess. They don't do it to make things better for you, the end user. The end user just gets the benefit of better things because that's what ends up taking over previously unheld space in the market.

[Lime]

TJO, on 07 March 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Eventualy dye will gave to adapt or die so to speak there are spool valve guns that blow it out of the water. The 2013 demon comes to mind. It needs some work on the reliability aspect which I believe the new version addressed. Once all the fanboys unbiasedly shoot these other guns dye will take a hit. Assuming we call performance on par between the d m and demon. The small features matter. The oled And macroless will make the difference

Except I would buy a marker even if it doesn't have a screen and has a macroline. What I will not buy is a marker that is going to fail miserably on me.

[ZzBrutality]

I'd like to see them try and make a nice pump, but hey, that's just me.

[TJO]

Lime, on 07 March 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

TJO, on 07 March 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Eventualy dye will gave to adapt or die so to speak there are spool valve guns that blow it out of the water. The 2013 demon comes to mind. It needs some work on the reliability aspect which I believe the new version addressed. Once all the fanboys unbiasedly shoot these other guns dye will take a hit. Assuming we call performance on par between the d m and demon. The small features matter. The oled And macroless will make the difference

Except I would buy a marker even if it doesn't have a screen and has a macroline. What I will not buy is a marker that is going to fail miserably on me.

I understand this and will agree to an extent, however the demons, with the upgrades, do not have any problems that simple regular maintenance will not prevent.

[darthp]

TJO, on 07 March 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Eventualy dye will gave to adapt or die so to speak there are spool valve guns that blow it out of the water. The 2013 demon comes to mind. It needs some work on the reliability aspect which I believe the new version addressed. Once all the fanboys unbiasedly shoot these other guns dye will take a hit. Assuming we call performance on par between the d m and demon. The small features matter. The oled And macroless will make the difference

I do agree that small features matter. OLED and Macroless would be great. But I don't think the DM performs so poorly that Dye would go under because of it. People who shoot them aren't fanboys just because they shoot them. The Matrix is a great platform, it just leans more towards performance than perks.

I think it'd be neat if they could move the LPR behind the bolt, like the HPR in the DAM. Giving the marker a lower profile would be pretty big step in the right direction.

[bassfisher]

I hope they revamp the NT, Definately one of the best looking electros, and bring out a pump.

This post has been edited by bassfisher: 07 March 2013 - 07:47 PM

[heylookitskarl]

I hope they bring back the NT, it was a cool concept... but what a shame that they spent all that time making it "perfect" and it still didn't perform the way an ego at that price range could... You had to buy the gun crossing your fingers and hoping you got one that worked lol

I have never shot the DM but I know that the DM series is a LOT more reliable

[legomyego93]

See I actually like the macroline! if a line breaks or starts leaking its a easy fix, unlike the air going threw the tank its alot eaiser to break. I really think there doing just fine.

[Orange Chicken]

Want to see a dye i4 for larger heads.
That being said, my head can still fit the normal i4's like a glove, it's just that tons of people are missing out or avoiding the i4's because it's so tiny.

This post has been edited by Orange Chicken: 29 April 2013 - 09:38 PM

[IPlaySoccer]

Bigger I4s.

Smaller profile DM

DAM little brother "a tacticool pistol"

And a nice poppit would be cool.

[PaintJunkie]

1. Gear that isn't horribly overpriced
2. DM14 that isn't secretly a DM8
3. Gear that isn't super overpriced
4. A new Hopper, that isn't overpriced

I honestly don't see how dye stays in business. Their top end markers are garbage compared to their competition, their products (rotor aside) are built like trash and they charge rediculous amounts of money for products that hardly stand out.