[Nobben #44]

I disagree with pinokio being the ultimate loader, My rotor killed it twice, and a prophecy will kill a rotor.


But i agree 150% about the best liftetime gun as the Alias...love em', absolutely nothing bad to say about one(God i miss my ripper2)

This post has been edited by Nobben #44: 21 September 2009 - 08:09 AM

[the_eggman]

Spitlebug, on 21 September 2009 - 01:44 AM, said:

TechPB-Mike, on 20 September 2009 - 09:17 PM, said:

Sorry Spitlebug, but the SP-1 absolutely DESTROYS the Model 98 C, in every single way possible

First off, the SP-1 is electronic, the M98 isn't

The SP-1 never chops paint. Put a shake-and-shoot loader on the M98C, and on the SP-1 and shoot 4 pods as fast as you can. With the SP-1, clean barrel. M98C, blender

The SP-1 has an amazing regulator on it, M98 doesn't

The SP-1 absolutely CRUSHES the M98C on the field, dood this isn't even a contest. If you took a M98C, and I took a bone stock SP-1 and we played 1 on 1 in the woods, you'd get absolutely crushed by the firepower of the SP-1

M98C is a decent gun, but the SP-1 absolutely destroys it. And the SP-1 destroys the A5's, it also destroys the TM7, X7, and every other "woodsball" marker made today.

Not wanting to get into a debate on the matter, but I would like to point out some things (for clarity):

1.) Being mechanical is not in any way, shape or form a drawback.
2.) M98's can be electronic - right from the factory. but does it come stock on a 98 custom? no.
3.) All markers chop paint. It is what it is. wrong. check out the automag level 10 bolt.
4.) M98's don't require post regulation and is HPA and CO2 friendly. so is the sp1
5.) Performance on field is relative.
6.) I don't like A5's. Not really a fan, never have been.
7.) Most "woodsball" and "scenario" markers in the last 3 years have been M98 or A5 clones. There are exceptions, but this is the "norm".

the_eggman, on 20 September 2009 - 10:53 PM, said:

does this answer your question????

Do we even know that the marker is all stock and using electronics in that video? does it mater? electronics are electronics. it doesnt matter if its a stock board, blackheart, virtue, tadao, its all the same underwater. and smart parts inc, wouldn't post this online if it was fake because you know at least 5 people with sp1's went straight to their bathtub after watching this video and if it was a lie then it would be all over the web...

i rest my case... for now...

[Stabilizer]

I agree that the Dye C9 knee and elbow pads are comfortable to wear, and they dont move around.
But the quality is not very good.
Both my elbowpads have torn seams, and my kneepads are beginning to tear as well.
I had hoped for more durability.
I have only been using it for 4 months, and i dont do alot of sliding.

[shadowthread]

come on mike dont forget to give yourself an award. without you techpb would not exist. to me that is worth some kind of paintball award.

[TechPB-Mike]

Spitlebug, on 21 September 2009 - 01:44 AM, said:

Not wanting to get into a debate on the matter, but I would like to point out some things (for clarity):

1.) Being mechanical is not in any way, shape or form a drawback.
2.) M98's can be electronic - right from the factory.
3.) All markers chop paint. It is what it is.
4.) M98's don't require post regulation and is HPA and CO2 friendly.
5.) Performance on field is relative.
6.) I don't like A5's. Not really a fan, never have been.
7.) Most "woodsball" and "scenario" markers in the last 3 years have been M98 or A5 clones. There are exceptions, but this is the "norm".

1) Spitle, are you on crack? If there is no drawback to using mechanical markers? Ummmm, rate of fire? Solenoid? regulator?
2) They still don't have a regulator, and are HORRIBLY inconsistent at best.
3) No they don't, a spring driven blowback comes forward with considerably more speed and more force, than the lightweight, regulator controlled bolt of the SP-1. Put your finger in the breech and pull the trigger, you'll see what I mean
4) Sure, and if your tank drops below 500psi, you won't be able to get to 300fps. The SP-1 has a CO2 friendly regulator, than still shoots even when the tank is ice code and freezing. Once you freeze the tank on a Tippmann, the striker can't return and the gun goes fully automatic, and drains the tank even more. The SP-1 operates down to 200psi input pressure and still shoots with no problem. The Tippmann needs 500psi just to cycle.
5) Relative to the fact that the SP-1 will be extremely consistent over the chronograph due to the regulator, and the M98 will not
7) This is erronious info, doesn't mean anything. The Model 98 has been around for years, the SP-1 is around a year old.

It's a great attempt at defending the Model 98, but the SP-1 absolutely crushes it, destroys it, embarrasses it on the field. It's not even close in comparison.

[D.K.]

Mike is winning this "debate" (one-sided slaughter) by far. Spitle- The 98c does not even come close to a SP-1. Especially if it's a blackheart SP-1.

Sorry Spitle, your intelligence is undeniable but taking the defense of the black sheep isn't going to work on this one.

[Pain-T-Baller]

The only thing I can say is that I think the GEO should have been mentioned as a awesome spoolie. But that is because I own one and i love it. But meh. good reporting Mike. what about the BT line of vests though? with their MOLLE construction they have a vest and a setup for every type of woodsball player.

This post has been edited by Pain-T-Baller: 21 September 2009 - 12:02 PM

[jtusa181]

i think mike would marry the vibe blackheart if he could...i wanna get one myself i must say though after how much mike raves about it

[Nobben #44]

Pain-T-Baller, on 21 September 2009 - 12:01 PM, said:

The only thing I can say is that I think the GEO should have been mentioned as a awesome spoolie. But that is because I own one and i love it. But meh. good reporting Mike. what about the BT line of vests though? with their MOLLE construction they have a vest and a setup for every type of woodsball player.

umm...a quest will kill a geo, a dm6 would too.
the geo is: a sexy,smoother,pimped, overall better G3. And no that is not a bad thing, its decent, okay, but not awsome compared to almost all the other spoolies Ive shot(shot 3 different geo's, one over a longer period but I havent owned one, yet) but god they look good

[FurbyTFR]

*flex*

I made the list!

[crazy-&-tattooed]

Winner out of the red corner " MIKE"!!!!!

[PacosTacos88]

This thread = greatest win of all time.

[cptcomisi94]

PacosTacos88, on 21 September 2009 - 01:44 PM, said:

This thread = greatest win of all time.

yes it is

[the_eggman]

TechPB-Mike, on 21 September 2009 - 11:36 AM, said:

Spitlebug, on 21 September 2009 - 01:44 AM, said:

Not wanting to get into a debate on the matter, but I would like to point out some things (for clarity):

1.) Being mechanical is not in any way, shape or form a drawback.
2.) M98's can be electronic - right from the factory.
3.) All markers chop paint. It is what it is.
4.) M98's don't require post regulation and is HPA and CO2 friendly.
5.) Performance on field is relative.
6.) I don't like A5's. Not really a fan, never have been.
7.) Most "woodsball" and "scenario" markers in the last 3 years have been M98 or A5 clones. There are exceptions, but this is the "norm".

1) Spitle, are you on crack? If there is no drawback to using mechanical markers? Ummmm, rate of fire? Solenoid? regulator?
2) They still don't have a regulator, and are HORRIBLY inconsistent at best.
3) No they don't, a spring driven blowback comes forward with considerably more speed and more force, than the lightweight, regulator controlled bolt of the SP-1. Put your finger in the breech and pull the trigger, you'll see what I mean
4) Sure, and if your tank drops below 500psi, you won't be able to get to 300fps. The SP-1 has a CO2 friendly regulator, than still shoots even when the tank is ice code and freezing. Once you freeze the tank on a Tippmann, the striker can't return and the gun goes fully automatic, and drains the tank even more. The SP-1 operates down to 200psi input pressure and still shoots with no problem. The Tippmann needs 500psi just to cycle.
5) Relative to the fact that the SP-1 will be extremely consistent over the chronograph due to the regulator, and the M98 will not
7) This is erronious info, doesn't mean anything. The Model 98 has been around for years, the SP-1 is around a year old.

It's a great attempt at defending the Model 98, but the SP-1 absolutely crushes it, destroys it, embarrasses it on the field. It's not even close in comparison.

even tho i disagree with the rate of fire part (pump? hello?) yes the sp1 is much more consistant than the m98. it dominates it in every way, shape and form...

[Compulsion]

Mike, you said you used two CASES of First Strike rounds?

You don't mean traditional 2000 round cases, right? Cause that's $3000 worth of paint.

[mtpntball]

cool

[D.K.]

Compulsion, on 21 September 2009 - 02:52 PM, said:

Mike, you said you used two CASES of First Strike rounds?

You don't mean traditional 2000 round cases, right? Cause that's $3000 worth of paint.

FS rounds come in tubes, theres a case of tubes (not 2000 rounds but its a lot of tubes in a case).

[Oblivion]

woot, i do agree with the exalt feedgate. ^^

[the_eggman]

D.K., on 21 September 2009 - 04:49 PM, said:

Compulsion, on 21 September 2009 - 02:52 PM, said:

Mike, you said you used two CASES of First Strike rounds?

You don't mean traditional 2000 round cases, right? Cause that's $3000 worth of paint.

FS rounds come in tubes, theres a case of tubes (not 2000 rounds but its a lot of tubes in a case).

they should come out with a first strike phantom....

[D.K.]

Why would that be?

Maybe you shoukd stop "shoulding". As I call it