[Spitlebug]

cockerpunk, on Aug 27 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

if anyone here has a PBN account in good standing, i would ask that someone either quote, or summarize the statements me and bryce have made about "sponsorship" and "support"

im not asking you to go to bat for us, but im tired of looking at it.

I can. If there is something you want said P.M. it to me but remember, I do things verbatim.

[cockerpunk]

"Supported by" and "Sponsored By" mean two different things. PunkWorks only sponsor is TechPB. PunkWorks as an entity prefers to remain impartial by never profiting from favorable (or unfavorable) testing results. Sometimes input and support from the industry is required for cost or availability reasons, and in such cases PunkWorks remains impartial by giving back or giving away any products received that do not have future testing planned. When a company does allow us to use there products, PunkWorks thanks them by making sure it is known that those companies support our testing. Ninja Paintball gave PunkWorks there regulator for this testing. PunkWorks tested the regulator, then gave the reg away as a prize in PunkWorks next test, the Laning Test. This was to remain impartial and can be seen on the PunkWorksPaintball youtube channel.

Guerrilla Air did not give us anything, so they were not cited as supporters. However, you will notice that has changed. That is becuase (through whatever means) our test has come to the attention of Dan Colby at GA. Yesterday, Dan contacted Bryce about his regulators performance. He said the regulator we tested was defective, and that he would send us a new one to test. Also, Sonney Lopez of LA Hitman fame, talked to Kitty (of British fame) about wanting to get the new G2 myth into our hands for testing. This is why GA was added this morning as supporting PunkWorks.

To insure impartiality, GA is welcome to have both there regulators back after we are done. Otherwise, Kitty has offered to give them away on TechPB radio to viewers.






post that. its the full story.

This post has been edited by cockerpunk: 27 August 2009 - 02:22 PM

[brycelarson]

but fix the spelling mistakes

and I changed a couple of things - what do you think?

oh, and I can still post over there. was there a thread in which this should be posted?

cockerpunk, on Aug 27 2009, 02:08 PM, said:

"Supported by" and "Sponsored By" mean two different things. PunkWorks only sponsor is TechPB. PunkWorks as an entity prefers to remain impartial by never profiting from favorable (or unfavorable) testing results. Sometimes input and support from the industry is required for cost or availability reasons, and in such cases PunkWorks remains impartial by giving back or giving away any products received that are used in head-to head comparison testing. When a company does allow us to use their products, PunkWorks thanks them by making sure it is known that those companies support our testing. Ninja Paintball gave PunkWorks their regulator for this testing. PunkWorks tested the regulator, then gave the reg away as a prize in PunkWorks next test, the Laning Test.

Before the reg test Guerrilla Air did not give us anything, so they were not cited as supporters. However, you will notice that has changed. That is because our test has come to the attention of Dan Colby at GA. Yesterday, Dan contacted Bryce about his regulators performance. He said the regulator we tested was defective, and that he would send us a new one to test. Also, Sonney Lopez of LA Hitman fame, talked to Kitty (of British fame) about wanting to get the new G2 myth into our hands for testing. This is why GA was added this morning as supporting PunkWorks.

To insure impartiality, PunkWorks will not sell or keep the regulators provided by Guerrilla Air.

This post has been edited by brycelarson: 27 August 2009 - 03:05 PM

[cockerpunk]

http://www.pbnation....=3189517&page=7

[brycelarson]

done.

[Spitlebug]

Beat me to it. Was out to lunch with the bossman today...

[cockerpunk]

Spitlebug, on Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM, said:

Beat me to it. Was out to lunch with the bossman today...

you have failed me for the last time ...

This post has been edited by cockerpunk: 27 August 2009 - 03:31 PM

[brycelarson]

yeah, the way PBN works I'll prob get banned for it - but oh well. better from the source I assume. not that you're not credible Spitle - but I figure that it short cuts the dismissal of the statement that was bound to happen.

but, we're getting off topic. reg testing.

so, with the new GA regs on the way - I plan to replicate the test we already did - but is there anything additional that people would like to see?

This post has been edited by brycelarson: 27 August 2009 - 04:06 PM

[Spitlebug]

cockerpunk, on Aug 27 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

you have failed me for the last time ...

Nooooo!!!! Lord Vader....



On a serious note, I went out and bought a Ninja Tank because of this test. Moreover I was actually using a Pure Energy Reg on my existing tank. Yegads. Also, I might add that price was also a big factor. As of late there have been more and more Ninja tanks at my field...

Tried Underboring the other day...

[brycelarson]

Spitlebug, on Aug 27 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

cockerpunk, on Aug 27 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

you have failed me for the last time ...

Nooooo!!!! Lord Vader....

On a serious note, I went out and bought a Ninja Tank because of this test. Moreover I was actually using a Pure Energy Reg on my existing tank. Yegads. Also, I might add that price was also a big factor. As of late there have been more and more Ninja tanks at my field...

Tried Underboring the other day...

woah, what up man? you have a stroke or something. Just doing whatever we say?

[Spitlebug]

No, I needed a new tank anyways. So, all sources point to good company and good data. Moreover the underboring worked flawlessly. I was chronoing at 320fps with the stock one piece 0.691 bores proto barrel. I put the 0.683 bor back on my pipe kit and I went all the way up to 360fps.

Holy poop.

[brycelarson]

Spitlebug, on Aug 27 2009, 08:38 PM, said:

No, I needed a new tank anyways. So, all sources point to good company and good data. Moreover the underboring worked flawlessly. I was chronoing at 320fps with the stock one piece 0.691 bores proto barrel. I put the 0.683 bor back on my pipe kit and I went all the way up to 360fps.

Holy poop.

you've seen the math - now you get to see the real world application.

why chrono to 320?

[CrazyLittle]

Question - the "bum" myth reg in the test video... Was that the one I sent you guys?

[Spitlebug]

brycelarson, on Aug 27 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

you've seen the math - now you get to see the real world application.

why chrono to 320?

Mike sends his markers out over velocity in the idea if the marker is shooting higher than normal velocity that the pressure is higher. No leaks + higher pressure = O.K. marker.

Still, I didn't want to fiddle with the reg at all so I could test it at the same settings just to what kind of change there was.

[Samson]

is this the new Myth Reg?

[cockerpunk]

CrazyLittle, on Aug 28 2009, 12:08 AM, said:

Question - the "bum" myth reg in the test video... Was that the one I sent you guys?

yup

[brycelarson]

Samson, on Aug 28 2009, 03:52 AM, said:

is this the new Myth Reg?

no old one - new one is coming. look for results this fall.

[Egomaniacal]

This may have been answered already, but I don't have time to read all 6 pages. Why didn't you do a consistency test with all the regulators? Sure, you show the Myth spiking around like it is, but from that I have nothing else to base it on. What were the others like? Was there a reason you didn't fill each up to 3k and record the consistency of the first 20-30 shots? Even though this is still bad statistics, as was the rest of the test (too few samples), it would be good enough for me to get an idea from.

[sticktodrum]

Check the other 5 pages. You might find your answer there.

[cockerpunk]

Egomaniacal, on Aug 28 2009, 10:03 AM, said:

This may have been answered already, but I don't have time to read all 6 pages. Why didn't you do a consistency test with all the regulators? Sure, you show the Myth spiking around like it is, but from that I have nothing else to base it on. What were the others like? Was there a reason you didn't fill each up to 3k and record the consistency of the first 20-30 shots? Even though this is still bad statistics, as was the rest of the test (too few samples), it would be good enough for me to get an idea from.

none of the others showed any difference. the only reason we taped the myth is that it was so unusual. all the others just dropped a bit, and went back to the same place. then obviously they creeped and we measured that.