[Schultzie]

blackstar848, on Oct 30 2008, 08:35 PM, said:

i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor.

I've had mine for a couple months now and been to a ton of practices. I think I've been hit in the loader once or twice so far and both were right on the front. wouldn't have mattered what loader I was using. by loaning it out for people to use, there have been a bunch more being ordered and showing up at local fields. Once people use it, they love it.

[Marshall14]

omg easye that was great hahahahahhahahahhahahahahaha

thanks

Marshall

p.s i didnt qote so just look at page 1 lol thats was hillarious

[FamousForNow]

BOBBYTUCSON, on Oct 31 2008, 11:31 AM, said:

IVE BEEN REALLY SCEPTICLE ABOUT THE PINOKIO , BUT FROM HEARING ALL THE PROS AND BASICALLY NO CONS , I NOW MUST TRY ONE!

Mission complete!!! Someone isnt just jumping on the bandwagon and ignoring any information put in their face lol.

[dagoober]

i like the conventional loaders (halo, reloader, pulse, pinokio) all these ones that use new feed seystems and crap are just not as reliable as the good old conventional loaders. like WOW the rotor can feed 50 bps but that wont help you wen you only ever use like 15 bps max.

[Naltron]

well i dont have either of them. but from what ive read i might try the pinokio....

for those who said that the rotor looks awezome and the pinokio looks ugly, IT MIGHT BE TRUE.

but im more concern about performance than how good i look on my paintball gear..



ive seen so many players that cant snapshoot or dont even know how to hold the marker, BUT i must say, they have a very beautifull gear on the.. they look awezome till u play agains them and u find out they are all looks xD


sorry about the bad english not my first languaje.

[Naltron]

blackstar848, on Oct 30 2008, 08:35 PM, said:

i don't care if the pinokio can run in water. i don't drop my gun anyway. the reason why i'm in love with the rotor is because there is little to no popcorning and it is extremely low profile. i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor. plus the fact that it is probably the easiest hopper out there to disassemble.

so u dont drop ur gun.. that means u never dive or slide...

i dont see how u can play a real speedball match whitout doing that. but if thats the case ur right. u should get a rotor..

u probly dont even need kneepads or elbow pads, or slide shorts or any of those stuff...

if thats the case "AND I DONT SEE ANYTHING BAD WHIT THAT" i do understand why you would rather a rotor..

but for most players who play speedball they do need those stuff..

example! egos are the most sell ones for that same reason. they can take the hard work on them..

i have a dm and i love DMS, but must ppl want the ego for the same reason they would want a pinokio.

[Juggernaut]

FamousForNow, on Oct 30 2008, 05:16 PM, said:

Ok so i know everyone is siked about the new rotors. Shit i was blown away to. I was like wtf dye always takes it to the next level... Toolless disassembly.. Like how sick is that.

FYI, George Spurlock did the toolless disassembly thing last year with the Torque loader. At '07 WCO(or was that '06?) he couldn't keep them on the shelf. Dye simply took that portion of his innovation and put their name on it.

FamousForNow, on Oct 30 2008, 05:16 PM, said:

I also checked out the pinokio loaders, it wasnt anything spectacular but the design is simple, tried, and true. It works great, durable, and holds 240 paintballs without the large nose on it (it holds 400 with the nose). Thats like 15 extra seconds you can hold a lane down without reloading.............

That phallic loader's been around for a while now. It's been at least a year if not longer the first time I heard it announced. Frankly they're a bit hideous looking. Kind of like a cross between an electronic sex toy and the creature in The Alien but I suppose whatever floats your boat lol.

[onslaughtcapt.]

Plus the pinokio is cheaper.

[kfinchie]

So is everyone on this board a pinokio salesmens?

[Nicholai]

I still like the low profile of the rotor and the looks. Yeah looks will always be secondary but maybe the pinokio will come out with a second version the looks a bit nicer (a bit on the ugly side). I still think ease of disassembly is a big plus for both of these loaders because even if the pinokio doesn't break paint you can still dump broken paint in there or get a hopper hit and have the paint break. The water thing is cool. I also wanted to remind whoever said you had to glue on a speedfeed, that the video stated dye would be making a speedfeed solution for it.

dye rotor will still compete with these 2 things:

Lower profile
Looks


If the rotor proves to be reliable over time,
I say get them both :-)


I'm all for standing behind a good product but some of you pinokio guys are getting a little carried away with your arguments and it comes off a little harsh.

That being said, the pinokio sounds like an EXCELENT hopper.

[Quo]

I bought a pinokio hopper a month ago.
I'm from the Netherlands and I think I'm the only one here with the thing, but its great... my reloader B has become my backup hopper cause the pinokio is just great.

easy to clean, light, feeds like a mofo, doesnt break paint, nice layed back design (its ugly, but who the hell cares if it works (same goes for rocketships)).

I would recommend everyone to get a pinokio.. and for us europeans... its cheaper to get a pinokio from the US to us then buying a reloader B2/ magna / rotor in our own country.

The owner of pinokio hoppers actually send me an email a couple of weeks after I'd gotten in asking me if I liked the loader... really nice guy, great service, great product.

[truBALLA]

people saying the pinkokio is ugly. just look at the jrny looks worse imo

[invertfan12345]

blackstar848, on Oct 30 2008, 08:35 PM, said:

i don't care if the pinokio can run in water. i don't drop my gun anyway. the reason why i'm in love with the rotor is because there is little to no popcorning and it is extremely low profile. i get hopper shots alot because my halo is so high profile so i really would like the rotor. plus the fact that it is probably the easiest hopper out there to disassemble.

it might b the easiest 2 dissasemble but not the fkin easiest 2 clean...dont u get it...i can dump a glass of water through a pinokio n clean it...how is that not hard 2 clean...get a life chuck

[Michael]

Thank you Famousfornow to being realistic, to be honest, i think alot of people just are obsessed with dye so they want a dye rotor, and everyone is like OMG it looks so sick, ya it looks pretty sweet, eventually they are gonna be like ions (no offense to them) but everyones got one, eventually they somehow arn't gonna be so sweet anymore, and last but not least, this is dyes first hopper, ya some with pinokio but at least thats what they specialize in, i guarantee theres gonna be some problems.

thats just my thinking!

[Ionikpaintball]

easye, on Oct 31 2008, 09:54 AM, said:

Pinokio all the way I cant wait for mine to come in I just ordered one. The dye loads flimsier than the Pinokio and Paxon and Cuba are dye players and the go with the pinokio that tells you something. If you dont want the nose attachment you can give it to your gf I am sure she can find a good use for it. lol

E

XD haha i just thought of that

[Ionikpaintball]

2 mor things.
ok so i was checking out some rotor vids and i was pretty sold on it. but then i realized reall who is gonna need 50 bps. just like above the rotor has just come out, i wouldnt be surprized if they turn out like the minis.

now about the pinikio, i like the looks of the pinokio. the rotor is pretty too but what changed me from the rotor to the pinikio, is you can run water through it. 1 if u drop it in a river or a stream it wont break. 2 you can clean it doing that.

[Juggernaut]

Ionikpaintball, on Nov 2 2008, 12:32 AM, said:

now about the pinikio, i like the looks of the pinokio. the rotor is pretty too but what changed me from the rotor to the pinikio, is you can run water through it. 1 if u drop it in a river or a stream it wont break. 2 you can clean it doing that.

Whats with all this dropping it in water crap? No matter which one, if you drop a hopper in water youre sol since the paint inside is contaminated and stuck together. Ive been playing paintball for over 20 years and never had the inclination to immerse a hopper in water much less clutz enough to drop one in a stream of water. This sounds like candy coated hype. Next thing is youll be saying you ran it over with a truck(sound familiar?)

[A.Tech]

TechPB-Willie, on Oct 31 2008, 08:03 AM, said:

Famous for now,

People will not trust you always. They always have to wonder and think someone is hiding and lying to them. They will see one at their field one day and wonder and once they use it they will be sold on it. I can confirm for you that Nicky and Mike both had issues with Youngblood over the fact that they refused to use the rotor. I was behind the booth when Mike came to get his. I missed Nicky but I did see him after he got it. Mike was a fan of the loader just as I am. It has proven to me that there is no loader that compares to the pinokio. So do not get bothered by the fact they doubt you. No one believed me about the water til I took it off my gun that I was going to play with the next day and did the demonstration. That is how much I believe in the loader and it's design.
Thank you for the story, I wanted to get a chance to watch Mike and Nicky playing with it but I did not get the chance. I was too busy making videos. Allow people to form their opinion on facts that they have no clue on. They will face the pinokio one day at their field and wonder why they got anything else.

Thank you for the continued support.

I can see why Dave youngblood got mad at them for not using them I mean his company does pay out out of the ass to sponser that team. And it is a Dye team. They use everything Dye head to toe. There is one player that uses a PM8 and a few use Proto packs but it is still Dye just not the name stamped on it. That would be the only thing that they use that does not directly say Dye on it. And maybe a few Halos and reloaders but the whole team is Dye all the way. I can see why Dave got pissed because it is a new product and they did not wanna rep them even tho they pay them.

You cannot do that in a sport. If your sponser is paying you and your team to rep a product you should do it or you will see problems for yourself in your professinal career in any sport. I mean come on. Do you think MJ would tell Nike in an NBA championship that he just does not FEEL like wearing his Nikes? yah. You would be pissed off too.

AND the only reason why the did not wanna use them was the rain thing. But it could of been fixed if they just taped up the rotors on the side I bet.

[A.Tech]

kfinchie, on Nov 1 2008, 09:59 AM, said:

So is everyone on this board a pinokio salesmens?

hhaha. NO shit right... I am sorry Techpb crew but eventho they are your sponsers you guys are just a tad bit too bias. I love the shit you guys do for us but that is one thing that erks me when I click on a JRNY or Rotor topic there is 99.9 times out of 100 that a TechPB crew will say the Pinokio is just better and they should get it...I do have to admit that some of you guys are trying too hard to get the Pinokio known and out there. Just let it be for a little bit, instead of shoving it down ppls throats( or threads) It Sorta gives the hopper a bad name IMHO. And makes me just not wanna try it because the other hoppers were not even tried or given a chance at all yet.

JUST me 2 cents guys. Not being neg or anything or hating towards the hopper, I just hope you understand this as I am an extremly opinionated person. Thanks.

[Nicholai]

A.Tech, I agree totally. I for one will always be convinced with facts that don't sound so biased. I'm very convinced of the hoppers quality, but I don't think it means that no other hopper out there will ever be better or have just certain aspects of it be better. Like hands down the pinokio is an ugly hopper and is on the larger size. The whole point of having options though it what pros outweigh the cons. Just because a certain aspect isn't important to you doesn't mean you have the right to bark someone down because it's important to them. Like even as I write this I fear the wrath of the pinokio gang :-) It's good to constantly re evaluate things and be open to the idea that other companies might be able to make good products too.