[Lament]

ninjapaintball, on 09 February 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

Lament, on 09 February 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

Always have respect for your equipment. Period. What Ray said (Ninjapaintball) is interesting, although I knew about the filling the tank to destruction part.

You don't have to worry about leaving a HPA tank out in the sun and worry about it blowing a burst disk, pretty much. Keep in mind, with a CO2 tank, when they are filled, they are filled with liquid CO2, that has to convert back to a gas to shoot your marker. Since it is a liquid, you can get more in there than if it was all a gas. So when you leave a CO2 tank out in the sun, the warmth begins to convert the liquid back to a gas. And as it does so, it raises the pressure of the inside's of the tank. When the internal pressure gets to about 1801 PSI, your burst disk will blow, releasing the pressure to a safe level. HPA tanks are already in a gaseous state, so leaving a HPA tank out in the sun won't raise the pressure by much (CO2 is generally 850 PSI and can reach the pressure of 1800 PSI easily in warmer weather), you should not generally have any worries about it.

Sorry Lament, i have to correct you as almost all CO2 tanks now a days have a 3000 psi burst disk and they will vent at 2700-3000 psi.

That is odd, to me at least. I would think that having that much pressure going into a marker, like an AutoMag, or a Tippmann. Plus, there still alot of tanks from years past that still have 1800 PSI burst disks.

Seems odd to me about how people were complaining about the Myth reg not having a low pressure burst disk, and dumping upwards to 4500 PSI, and CO2 tanks can easily hit almost as much pressure going into a marker before a burst disk blows. Granted, not many people are going to use a CO2 tank, even with Palmers regs, on an Ego or a Bob Long, but still, the principle is still sound. Even with Spyders and Pirhanas...

Thanks Ray for letting me know that there has been this change in burst disks.

[Christopher]

Lament, on 09 February 2010 - 08:19 PM, said:

ninjapaintball, on 09 February 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

Lament, on 09 February 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

Always have respect for your equipment. Period. What Ray said (Ninjapaintball) is interesting, although I knew about the filling the tank to destruction part.

You don't have to worry about leaving a HPA tank out in the sun and worry about it blowing a burst disk, pretty much. Keep in mind, with a CO2 tank, when they are filled, they are filled with liquid CO2, that has to convert back to a gas to shoot your marker. Since it is a liquid, you can get more in there than if it was all a gas. So when you leave a CO2 tank out in the sun, the warmth begins to convert the liquid back to a gas. And as it does so, it raises the pressure of the inside's of the tank. When the internal pressure gets to about 1801 PSI, your burst disk will blow, releasing the pressure to a safe level. HPA tanks are already in a gaseous state, so leaving a HPA tank out in the sun won't raise the pressure by much (CO2 is generally 850 PSI and can reach the pressure of 1800 PSI easily in warmer weather), you should not generally have any worries about it.

Sorry Lament, i have to correct you as almost all CO2 tanks now a days have a 3000 psi burst disk and they will vent at 2700-3000 psi.

That is odd, to me at least. I would think that having that much pressure going into a marker, like an AutoMag, or a Tippmann. Plus, there still alot of tanks from years past that still have 1800 PSI burst disks.

Seems odd to me about how people were complaining about the Myth reg not having a low pressure burst disk, and dumping upwards to 4500 PSI, and CO2 tanks can easily hit almost as much pressure going into a marker before a burst disk blows. Granted, not many people are going to use a CO2 tank, even with Palmers regs, on an Ego or a Bob Long, but still, the principle is still sound. Even with Spyders and Pirhanas...

Thanks Ray for letting me know that there has been this change in burst disks.

CO2 pretty much never gets to that pressure unless you overfill the tank. But I would agree that it was poor judgment to switch over to 3k burst discs. They probably did that due to all the complaining of burst discs blowing, which is because most people don't know how to fill a CO2 tank anymore.