[betasniper]

Kitty, on Dec 9 2008, 04:03 AM, said:

But if it is encapsulated it would need to spilt on entrance to the breach in order to clean. that is why i said the fluffyball will be bigger than the barrel's bore
The fluffy ball sounds great to use after re-ball training to remove all the grit from the barrel but no more so than runnign water through it.

During games will it be practical? even if you had one in every pod sods law states that you would shoot your fluffy ball and then break paint and then need to wait another pod for one to appear. have like 5 fluffies per 100 rounds, odds are if you break a ball a fluffy will be their in 15 or less shots

[Nicholai]

Poe, on Dec 10 2008, 08:46 AM, said:

Surprised no one else posted this yet:

Cleaning ball and loading device patent

...encase the link didn't work:
http://haveblue.org/...US006532946.pdf

Good find!!!!! Crazy to think every idea you have seems like someone else has already thought of it! I like the method to feed the balls in to bypass the ball stack!

[betasniper]

Poe, on Dec 10 2008, 08:46 AM, said:

Surprised no one else posted this yet:

Cleaning ball and loading device patent

...encase the link didn't work:
http://haveblue.org/...US006532946.pdf

yes, really good find. that makes this idea very, very plausible. it gives you the abilaty to insert the fluffy right after a paintball breaks.

[PrometheanFlame]

cockerpunk, on Dec 9 2008, 03:04 PM, said:

guys, its pretty easy, just underbore.

when you squish a paintball larger then the barrel itself down the barrel, it will do the best job at pushing all that garbage out the front of the barrel.

So...if you underbore, you will never need to swab your barrel? Ever?

[cockerpunk]

PrometheanFlame, on Dec 10 2008, 08:56 PM, said:

cockerpunk, on Dec 9 2008, 03:04 PM, said:

guys, its pretty easy, just underbore.

when you squish a paintball larger then the barrel itself down the barrel, it will do the best job at pushing all that garbage out the front of the barrel.

So...if you underbore, you will never need to swab your barrel? Ever?

no, but it certainly cleans out after the break the best, mann's testing showed that pretty well.

[PrometheanFlame]

cockerpunk, on Dec 10 2008, 07:07 PM, said:

no, but it certainly cleans out after the break the best, mann's testing showed that pretty well.

What other effects does underboring have? The amount of contact required to clean the barrel would also create a lot of friction and reduce the range of the paintball, wouldn't it? Moreover, this would require a whole new barrel. How is this better than just swabbing?

[cockerpunk]

PrometheanFlame, on Dec 10 2008, 09:59 PM, said:

cockerpunk, on Dec 10 2008, 07:07 PM, said:

no, but it certainly cleans out after the break the best, mann's testing showed that pretty well.

What other effects does underboring have? The amount of contact required to clean the barrel would also create a lot of friction and reduce the range of the paintball, wouldn't it? Moreover, this would require a whole new barrel. How is this better than just swabbing?

its not better then swabbing.

but its something that cleans your barrel from the inside, with normal cycles, like the OP wanted. the frist shots will be slow, of course, but they will push all the gunk out the front the barrel, much better then overboring or matching will.

nothing is gonna be better then i good tear down and clean, but of the on-feild non-squeggie options, underboring will work the best.

[Lucas]

PrometheanFlame, on Dec 5 2008, 09:34 PM, said:

ktap, on Dec 5 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

i don't see why you could not have some fluffy balls already in your hopper/pods. essentially every once in a while you would shoot a fluffy ball to clean your barrel, but it would be completely random.

How many balls would it take to completely clean your barrel? More than one. If they're randomly distributed in your hopper, odds of getting one after another are pretty low. What if two aren't enough? Odds of getting three in a row would be VERY low, unless your hopper was half-full of these..."fluffies." It's a flawed idea. Just use a frickin' swab!

My idea is this........
You odn't needa freaking fluffy ball!!!
You could have a pod, almost like a swab. But alot less of one, it could have 3 divides to it.

1. A main paint obsorber
2. A a seondary paint obsorber
3. A polisher

All in a tube connected but like three different parts, like a mini squeegie. And you put it down your barrell. It slides down. Because its smaller... at the moment and the paintball when fired pushes it out as well as the air somehow "inflating" the materials to brush against the walls of teh barrell and clean it out. I'm working on a design. Maybe... just maybe I might be able to get a patent. You also could have a hopper adapted mechanism for actual balls but I'm not going to get into that just for uknown reasons.

[nickydp33]

i like the Y idea personally


and on a side note: i jus ate some ice krispies

[brycelarson]

PrometheanFlame, on Dec 10 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

What other effects does underboring have? The amount of contact required to clean the barrel would also create a lot of friction and reduce the range of the paintball, wouldn't it? Moreover, this would require a whole new barrel. How is this better than just swabbing?

It's not better than swabbing - but this whole thread is about non-swab options.

And no - the seal of the ball to barrel far out-weighs the increase in friction - our testing actually shows significant INCREASE in velocity when underboring.

[no_kitty]

hey, sorry havent ben on for a fewdays.

erm..where to begin, in no particular order.
that patent looks fantastic, much like what im trying to achive, but without the seperate loader finger in gun bit to it.

kitty, your point is valid..but also speaking of chance and perhaps shooting the ball at the wrong time, would somethingthat cleans the gun every say 200/400rounds prevent the build up of deposits that could lead to break? (moisture grease etc)

underboring seems a good alternative, i am going to try it these weekend, as its not something I ave never tried, ive always done the blow through test (which ive seen from bryans/cockers work is worsethan under or over boring)

im very busy over the next few weeks, so this project i on the backburner for a while.

Whitey

[dorathemagicchicken]

toxic city pb, on Dec 5 2008, 05:25 PM, said:

Or maybe instead of making a paintball/round that goes through the barrel how about making a board that has special lever/button that when triggered send a blast of straight air through the barrel cleaning it the way through.

the only problem is that there wouldnt be enough force to clean it

[PSYclone paintball]

make guns chop much less so there would not be much need fro cleaning

[ktap]

brycelarson, on Dec 11 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

PrometheanFlame, on Dec 10 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

What other effects does underboring have? The amount of contact required to clean the barrel would also create a lot of friction and reduce the range of the paintball, wouldn't it? Moreover, this would require a whole new barrel. How is this better than just swabbing?

It's not better than swabbing - but this whole thread is about non-swab options.

And no - the seal of the ball to barrel far out-weighs the increase in friction - our testing actually shows significant INCREASE in velocity when underboring.

dorathemagicchicken, on Dec 27 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

toxic city pb, on Dec 5 2008, 05:25 PM, said:

Or maybe instead of making a paintball/round that goes through the barrel how about making a board that has special lever/button that when triggered send a blast of straight air through the barrel cleaning it the way through.

the only problem is that there wouldnt be enough force to clean it

PSYclone paintball, on Dec 28 2008, 09:53 AM, said:

make guns chop much less so there would not be much need fro cleaning

This post has been edited by ktap: 28 December 2008 - 11:28 AM

[brycelarson]

ktap, on Dec 28 2008, 10:27 AM, said:

brycelarson, on Dec 11 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

And no - the seal of the ball to barrel far out-weighs the increase in friction - our testing actually shows significant INCREASE in velocity when underboring.

Do you doubt my claim of increase in velocity on uderbore?

click here

look at the graph titled "12" front - CP barrel kit - various bores"

[Kriegersa]

I think everyone is looking at this the wrong way with how to get the balls in the barrel or in the hopper, so i drew this picture up in paint (please excuse lol) and think this will work well with a little bit of tweaking. so here it is.



Green:paintballs
Blue: Fuzzy balls (haha get it blue balls?)
Red: button

and the rest is labeled.

so my idea was why not have a different compartment that will hold these fuzzy balls instead of having them all mixed in with your paint and when you need to clean your barrel just push the button to open the sliding door that seperates the paint from the fuzzy balls, the fuzzy balls will fall down into the feedneck (after you have shot out the rest of the paint that was already in the feedneck) once the hopper realizes that the fuzzy ball door has been opened it will stop spinning the motor untill it realizes there is no more fuzzy balls left and then the fuzzy balls will clean out the barrel and your good to go

so let me know about my idea haha.
and yes that is my interpertation of a DM9 hahahah oh and im the picaso of paint arent i?
lol
-Krieger

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[Kriegersa]

Sorry double post

[DanDaMan]

Kriegersa, on Dec 29 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

I think everyone is looking at this the wrong way with how to get the balls in the barrel or in the hopper, so i drew this picture up in paint (please excuse lol) and think this will work well with a little bit of tweaking. so here it is.



Green:paintballs
Blue: Fuzzy balls (haha get it blue balls?)
Red: button

and the rest is labeled.

so my idea was why not have a different compartment that will hold these fuzzy balls instead of having them all mixed in with your paint and when you need to clean your barrel just push the button to open the sliding door that seperates the paint from the fuzzy balls, the fuzzy balls will fall down into the feedneck (after you have shot out the rest of the paint that was already in the feedneck) once the hopper realizes that the fuzzy ball door has been opened it will stop spinning the motor untill it realizes there is no more fuzzy balls left and then the fuzzy balls will clean out the barrel and your good to go

so let me know about my idea haha.
and yes that is my interpertation of a DM9 hahahah oh and im the picaso of paint arent i?
lol
-Krieger

Dude, the DM9 is smexy. But really, that's a good idea. Possibly a new attachment for the Pinokio?

-DDM

[Muffin man]

that is a seriously giant eggy!!

This is a cool idea and all, but i think its pretty impractical.

The load when you want patent was pimp, the 5 in a pod isn't. Just imagine shooting a lane or snap shooting someone... that 1 ball that hits BAM! fuzzy hit!

Plus, things on paper don't always happen in real life. You might shoot 3 of the 5 fuzzies in a row, then the next real ball breaks.

[Kriegersa]

DanDaMan, on Dec 30 2008, 02:31 AM, said:

Kriegersa, on Dec 29 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

I think everyone is looking at this the wrong way with how to get the balls in the barrel or in the hopper, so i drew this picture up in paint (please excuse lol) and think this will work well with a little bit of tweaking. so here it is.



Green:paintballs
Blue: Fuzzy balls (haha get it blue balls?)
Red: button

and the rest is labeled.

so my idea was why not have a different compartment that will hold these fuzzy balls instead of having them all mixed in with your paint and when you need to clean your barrel just push the button to open the sliding door that seperates the paint from the fuzzy balls, the fuzzy balls will fall down into the feedneck (after you have shot out the rest of the paint that was already in the feedneck) once the hopper realizes that the fuzzy ball door has been opened it will stop spinning the motor untill it realizes there is no more fuzzy balls left and then the fuzzy balls will clean out the barrel and your good to go

so let me know about my idea haha.
and yes that is my interpertation of a DM9 hahahah oh and im the picaso of paint arent i?
lol
-Krieger

Dude, the DM9 is smexy. But really, that's a good idea. Possibly a new attachment for the Pinokio?

-DDM

hahah i know you like my dm9, and that would be kind of a cool attachment for the Pinokio, it would be like a small nose cover.

Muffin man, on Dec 30 2008, 06:51 AM, said:

that is a seriously giant eggy!!

This is a cool idea and all, but i think its pretty impractical.

The load when you want patent was pimp, the 5 in a pod isn't. Just imagine shooting a lane or snap shooting someone... that 1 ball that hits BAM! fuzzy hit!

Plus, things on paper don't always happen in real life. You might shoot 3 of the 5 fuzzies in a row, then the next real ball breaks.

are you saying my idea is impractial or the whole fuzzy ball idea? and is the load when you want patent my idea cause i dont remember giving it a name and if your talking about mine being pimp thanks!!

i thought i would ad something, instead of having the button on the top have, it either in the back or on the side so you wouldn't have to reach. it would release the trap door and either all or some or 1 fuzzy would fall out

hahaha and dont hate on my eggy (it was the easiest thing to draw in paint lol)