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12 May 2013 - 02:43 PMHow much would a used DM11 put me back? Cause I know a buddy selling a LNIB DM12 for 700$ but i dont have that much cash or I would of picked it up...
DM 9-13 will all shoot pretty close. The 9 or 10 will be $350-400 and great choices of you want a Dye or just a spool valve gun. DMs change very little from year to year. That said there are a ton of choices in this used market $500 range.
You seem to want, used super gun, single tube, low maintenance (cause you are new), reliable and good ergonomics. With that in mind, I'd advise; Eclipse Geo 1 or 2, Mac Dev Clone or Clone VX, Bob Long Victory, or DM 9-11.
These are all solid choices, all have their pros and cons. I'd take this info to the vs forum and do a little research. Good luck.
11 May 2013 - 12:15 PMYou can find some screaming deals on sfts these days. Bought my last one off eBay, he can, ndz bolt, virtue board, ton ton frame, hybrid guide, critical trigger, clamping feed neck cp reg, etc.... bunch of ups, for $136 shipped. Mild tune and sprung the bolt and it shoots with anything. Got it for a backup and its replaced my dm9. Do a little reading, zds paintball, has a great shocker section. Main shocker group is at pbn.
08 May 2013 - 07:15 PMCheaper Shockers maybe? i could see some Shocker NXT clone selling for about 500 and slaughtering the axe if they work well enough.
Then why would anyone buy a vanquish for 3 times as much? Think Kee will keep that design locked up if they can. Plus guns made in this country will likely be close to the Bob Long price point.
03 May 2013 - 01:22 PMWouldn't need a proprietary barrel with an integrated virtue beam type sensor for velocity. Mounted say, in front of the feed neck. Wire it to the board via the same path as the eye wires. Should be a short jump from one of these to a pressure monitoring device like on the vanquish or new clone.
Type in required velocity, sensor checks, on a spool valve the pressure is just raised. Only part not currently present is electronic reg adjustment.
30 April 2013 - 03:25 PMEventualy dye will gave to adapt or die so to speak there are spool valve guns that blow it out of the water. The 2013 demon comes to mind. It needs some work on the reliability aspect which I believe the new version addressed. Once all the fanboys unbiasedly shoot these other guns dye will take a hit. Assuming we call performance on par between the d m and demon. The small features matter. The oled And macroless will make the difference
I do agree that small features matter. OLED and Macroless would be great. But I don't think the DM performs so poorly that Dye would go under because of it. People who shoot them aren't fanboys just because they shoot them. The Matrix is a great platform, it just leans more towards performance than perks.
I think it'd be neat if they could move the LPR behind the bolt, like the HPR in the DAM. Giving the marker a lower profile would be pretty big step in the right direction.
Very good point, I've been hoping they'd put the lpr back in the front like the pm series but inside the body, or vertical like a pm8. A little more in the front, then almost nt like in the back. But first that bolt could use lightened up. Shorter tail, maybe a better bumper system or even a spring assist.
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