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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:34 AM

Yup, so I finally did this test last week and it has 85 views on it. So I'm going to post this in here to try to get some more attention to it.

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Stock Ego 10 on 12.5 bps ramp
Secondary regulator set at 400 PSI
20 oz anti-siphon CO2 tank
Vlocity hopper on setting 1
5 pods of INCA Jungle Paint

I forgot that when you change the output pressure of the tank, you also need to turn up the reg pressure. I forgot my allen keys so I couldn't turn up the velocity. But regardless of this, not only did the EGO 10 not break from being fed CO2 but it was pretty consistent. I haven't done the math but I'll say about +/- 5 FPS.

So here's the video. I'm sorry for the blackouts as this was taken on my cell phone.


This is rather good evidence that you can in fact use CO2 on markers that you wouldn't think that CO2 would work on.

The anti-siphon valve is there to protect the marker from pressure spikes and it really worked well. The second reg is there to increase CO2's consistency, which is really good in the video.

Prior to this test I had a lot of closed minded people give me rather rude comments. So for those people, eat your words! :)

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But it's interesting because I was using an 09 PMR in the winter time with the same kind of setup.

Edited by csskiller, 04 August 2011 - 08:36 PM.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:50 AM

Great test! It seems like a bit of work to get everything set up, plus getting an inti-siphon installed, but the test does prove its point.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:53 AM

Yea you can use all guns with Co2... But if you keep shooting with it you could freeze up the internals... such as boards, eyes, etc. etc.. and could end up breaking the gun...
But it is a great test!

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:59 AM

You can't use CO2 with all guns (like the one I'm designing), but you can with most with the proper precautions and equipment.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 02:53 AM

Pretty awesome that worked. The title still made me twitch though.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 03:13 AM

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:15 AM

bet she got pretty cold!

most guns can use co2 provided you do something about preventing liquid over pressureization, there are some guns by design however that cannot - like the RT/X valve system.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:47 AM

if you do it right you can use pretty much anything on co2, the marker doesnt know the difference if its gas and regulated well, I used to run a cocker on co2 (not that you need anything special to run a cocker on co2) but I had dual palmers regs on each end of my remote which was on my verticle tank (better then an A/s), and I ran it at -15 degrees in the winter in the snow with no problems, the marker didnt freeze up but every now and then when I shot to fast the tank would completely freeze solid with icy snow around it, but the marker was fine, soon as I warmed the tank up enough for pressure to go up a bit again the marker worked again, it got pretty cold from simply beoing outdoors but the co2 itself didnt really do anything to the marker
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:15 AM

bet she got pretty cold!

most guns can use co2 provided you do something about preventing liquid over pressureization, there are some guns by design however that cannot - like the RT/X valve system.


Yeah it got pretty cold, but not quite as cold as I expected. I want to do some more testing on this CO2 stuff but my time ran out with the EGO10 as it got traded...

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:29 AM

great test! but why would you trade it for an 09 impulse :blink:

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:34 AM

The EGO10 is a great marker. All you have to do is air it up and shoot people with it, weekend after weekend after weekend with ZERO maintenance. It just works.

Problem is, I'm a tinkerer so having a marker that just works means there is nothing to tune. I got to the point where I would break down the HPR, LPR and rammer after every day of play lol. Basically, I got really bored with how well it shot. Also, everyone at my field has an EGO of some kind and I mean EVERYONE.... I like to stand out from the crowd, and while the Blink EGO10 does that, it's still just an EGO.

I was looking for a marker that would have a little bit of attitude that would require tuning a little bit and also to have a marker that not many people know what it is. Like the 09 Impulse :)

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:40 AM

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:58 AM

Or a cocker!


Got my cocker pump for that. Spent the better part of a year getting that tuned :lol:

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 08:09 AM

The EGO10 is a great marker. All you have to do is air it up and shoot people with it, weekend after weekend after weekend with ZERO maintenance. It just works.

Problem is, I'm a tinkerer so having a marker that just works means there is nothing to tune. I got to the point where I would break down the HPR, LPR and rammer after every day of play lol. Basically, I got really bored with how well it shot. Also, everyone at my field has an EGO of some kind and I mean EVERYONE.... I like to stand out from the crowd, and while the Blink EGO10 does that, it's still just an EGO.

I was looking for a marker that would have a little bit of attitude that would require tuning a little bit and also to have a marker that not many people know what it is. Like the 09 Impulse :)


lol, you see!! You can't please all of the people all of the time no matter WHAT you do or how good your product is, lol.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 08:22 AM

Well, Jack. The man likes to tinker. So how about you make a few more of those Aurora factory 'Cockers to give TechPB something to do? ;)
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 10:45 AM


The EGO10 is a great marker. All you have to do is air it up and shoot people with it, weekend after weekend after weekend with ZERO maintenance. It just works.

Problem is, I'm a tinkerer so having a marker that just works means there is nothing to tune. I got to the point where I would break down the HPR, LPR and rammer after every day of play lol. Basically, I got really bored with how well it shot. Also, everyone at my field has an EGO of some kind and I mean EVERYONE.... I like to stand out from the crowd, and while the Blink EGO10 does that, it's still just an EGO.

I was looking for a marker that would have a little bit of attitude that would require tuning a little bit and also to have a marker that not many people know what it is. Like the 09 Impulse :)


lol, you see!! You can't please all of the people all of the time no matter WHAT you do or how good your product is, lol.

Glad you liked it while you had it though. :D

lol Jack, I'm honoured you posted in my thread! :)

For me the EGO 10 is a really great shooting marker. It's just that I'm a weirdo (as if you couldn't tell already with this test) that likes to experiment. You guys at Planet Eclipse already did all of that at the factory and put really good settings into the marker. I've never actually shot a marker that shot like an EGO10 so I'm going to miss that feeling for a while. In a couple of months when the EGO 11 comes out I might have to pick another EGO 10 up!

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:50 AM

How is Jack Wood only a sophomore member?

a bit off topic I know, but it just caught me off guard.

back on topic...

does anyone know what guns use a RT/X valve system?
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 12:01 PM

That would be the automag RT classic and the newer automags that you can buy from Airgun Designs' website right now.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 06:19 PM

stupid question, what is the reg connected to the asa for?

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 06:43 PM

For dual regulating purposes. On an hpa tank there's a reg there already so you're already dual regulating by screwing on your tank.

With co2 tanks its just a pin valve so you need to add another reg into the system to maintain consistency over the chrono.

Christopher's website www.criticalco2.com has a nice write up on dual regulating and what it does for you.

* edit

So I just realized that the site no longer exists but here's what dual regging does.

A regulator has a response curve, different for each reg. Palmers regs have a 72 to 1 response curve. So in order for the output of the reg to change by 1 psi the input pressure has to change by 72 psi. Obviously co2 tanks chill when you shoot fast so the pressure drops, sometimes a few hundred psi. If you only have one reg in the system you will get major shootdown.

With two regs the first reg might output let's say 25 psi less but then the next the basically doesn't notice the pressure drop as its not a change of 72 psi to change the output by 1 psi, rather a fraction of a psi.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 05:52 PM

Mags don't like the cold....

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 05:53 PM

Yes, everyone is rather well aware of how incompatible mags are with CO2, especially the RT mags.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:00 PM

Classic mags do fine on co2, though dual regulating helps. My coach actually shot a double regged classic mag on co2 yesterday at practice.



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Posted 08 October 2010 - 07:03 PM

I'm cringing.

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 07:54 PM

This just goes to show that with multiple regulators, filters, and an anti-siphon tank, CO2 will work on just about anything.

Yes, I know it's a necro, but it's still an interesting idea people should see.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 06:38 PM

Yup, so I finally did this test last week and it has 85 views on it. So I'm going to post this in here to try to get some more attention to it.

Setup:
Stock Ego 10 on 12.5 bps ramp
Secondary regulator set at 400 PSI
20 oz anti-siphon CO2 tank
Vlocity hopper on setting 1
5 pods of INCA Jungle Paint

I forgot that when you change the output pressure of the tank, you also need to turn up the reg pressure. I forgot my allen keys so I couldn't turn up the velocity. But regardless of this, not only did the EGO 10 not break from being fed CO2 but it was pretty consistent. I haven't done the math but I'll say about +/- 5 FPS.

So here's the video. I'm sorry for the blackouts as this was taken on my cell phone.
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGp4GzCOgMI"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=tGp4GzCOgMI[/url]

This is rather good evidence that you can in fact use CO2 on markers that you wouldn't think that CO2 would work on.

The anti-siphon valve is there to protect the marker from pressure spikes and it really worked well. The second reg is there to increase CO2's consistency, which is really good in the video.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:05 PM

I linked him here from another relevant discussion.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 03:44 PM

bet she got pretty cold!

most guns can use co2 provided you do something about preventing liquid over pressureization, there are some guns by design however that cannot - like the RT/X valve system.


So, now that this thread got bumped, and I reread it... I know that Mag's work better with higher pressures then CO2 can produce, is this what CP was alluding to, or is there something else that makes some markers unable to use CO2?
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Posted 15 September 2011 - 05:35 PM


bet she got pretty cold!

most guns can use co2 provided you do something about preventing liquid over pressureization, there are some guns by design however that cannot - like the RT/X valve system.


So, now that this thread got bumped, and I reread it... I know that Mag's work better with higher pressures then CO2 can produce, is this what CP was alluding to, or is there something else that makes some markers unable to use CO2?

Due to the fast recharge of the regulator CO2 literally freezes the internals.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:20 PM

The EGO10 is a great marker. All you have to do is air it up and shoot people with it, weekend after weekend after weekend with ZERO maintenance. It just works.

Problem is, I'm a tinkerer so having a marker that just works means there is nothing to tune. I got to the point where I would break down the HPR, LPR and rammer after every day of play lol. Basically, I got really bored with how well it shot. Also, everyone at my field has an EGO of some kind and I mean EVERYONE.... I like to stand out from the crowd, and while the Blink EGO10 does that, it's still just an EGO.

I was looking for a marker that would have a little bit of attitude that would require tuning a little bit and also to have a marker that not many people know what it is. Like the 09 Impulse :)



Well since this is already bumped. I do the same thing too. I break my egos down all the time. It doesnt need it but I gotta tinker with something. Though I dont get bored with it. I like my marker to work no matter what.

Just curious does any of the co2 liquify within the marker? I know on an RT the CO2 can liquify again due to how fast the valve cycles. Im assuming the Ego doesnt cycle that fast then.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:09 PM

On a related note I've run my intimidator on co2 many times without problems. I only do it for leak testing so instead of dual regs and an antisiphon I just have a remote line to keep the liquid out.

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