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#1 jdatkinsn

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:01 PM

I fully understand the good intentions involved with having a "Paintball Nutrition Forum", but there's so much bad/faulty/terrible/dangerous advice being dispensed in that forum that it either needs to be moderated by someone who can provide proof of appropriate medical certification or it should be closed.

You've got people telling others to make decisions about diet, workout and drug/supplement use that have done little more than read other internet forums. You've got guys asking about proper dosage for wafarin and other blood thinners when it comes to playing paintball. You've got one guy who said "eat a bunch and get really fat and then turn all the fat into muscle" (I shit you not, I'll dig up the post and everything). There is the occasional P90X discussion and sometimes I get into it with people about carb-cycling and varying insulin responses, but for the most part that forum can ONLY do harm. The only disclaimer in the forum is one I wrote. Some of the pinned threads contain suggestions such as "run until you are so exhausted you can no longer run".

I'm all for a well-run nutrition forum, but bad advice in THIS forum is different than someone saying that a broken DM5 for $900 is a steal. I imploreeee you guys to make some changes.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:25 PM

first

but also, I agree

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:10 PM

I agree as well. Cool idea...but dangerous if anyone tried some of the stuff.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:15 PM

100% agree, some things that are said in there are really dangerous.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 12:25 PM

I love the barefoot discussion, but both JD and I have put up threads about watching the advise you give, to no real avail.
The nutrition section was a good idea, and a honest one. but with the general audience on Techpb (givin the age demographic) its really hard to give sound information, or get sound information on a topic without getting replies which are so far from intelligent its scary. IE the hundreds of times people post up "do X until Failure"

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:52 PM

If you get rid of the forum do you really think it'll stop people from posting the questions?

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:58 PM

I have been given a lot of good advice in that forum. Please it is up to people weather they want to follow what is being said. Everyone has a right to listen or not. If someone is unsure about someone saying something they can always call the doctor and ask or w.e But imo i think it should stay open.
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Posted 28 March 2011 - 03:03 PM

Some of the advice is off but I wouldn't go as far to say it's dangerous by any means.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 06:49 PM

I have been given a lot of good advice in that forum. Please it is up to people weather they want to follow what is being said. Everyone has a right to listen or not. If someone is unsure about someone saying something they can always call the doctor and ask or w.e But imo i think it should stay open.


... you do understand how silly this statement is, right?

Also, I stand corrected, Eskimo has also been very vocal about calling BS and telling people to take everything with a kiloton of salt.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 07:10 PM

Don't be so moody jd.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:16 PM

Don't be so moody jd.



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we should not get our panties in a twist, but this is still a issue which we do worry about, some of the things you see on those topics... head desk.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:02 PM

If i can make a suggestion (not that my opinion matters much) I have been more than impressed with many of the arguments that JD raises in the nutrition forum and since he seems to be so knowledgeable and can back up much of his opinions why not make him and Eskimo mods for the nutrition forum (I haven't read alot of Eskimo's posts but others seem to think that he is helpful also). If they are up to it maybe they could help to stop all this misinformation from floating around. If modding is too much of a responsibility and time commitment then maybe not having a nutrition forum and just having a bunch of stickied write ups with frequently asked questions might be a better option, since many of the questions are very similar.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 01:26 PM

The thing with JD is he knows his shit, there is no doubting it. But he doesn't put it into terms that people can understand. Myself and a select few others can tell exactly what he is saying. If i wasn't doing a Sports and Exercise Science course along side human biology i'd get lost with some of the terms he uses. He needs to "dumb" it down so to speak.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 02:51 PM

I would be in for having a big compilation of a "general Nutrition overview" and a "general health overview" These to topics (or split them further) could be used as a "go to source" ie, when someone says "im fat" instead of explaining to them, no this isnt the end of the world. here is alist of things to look at
- your daily diet (eating pizza pockets for lunch every day? hmmmm)
- activity
- AGE GROUP [im 12 and can only lift X pounds] answer: your 12

I'm be down to do a write up on a general guide to age groups, dealing with muscular mass, fat mass, mass mass.
this way the 13 year old doesnt think he HAS to go start hitting the weights.

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 09:25 PM

Don't be so moody jd.


Only as soon as you stop being so goddamn charming.

Kidding :tup:

If i can make a suggestion (not that my opinion matters much) I have been more than impressed with many of the arguments that JD raises in the nutrition forum and since he seems to be so knowledgeable and can back up much of his opinions why not make him and Eskimo mods for the nutrition forum (I haven't read alot of Eskimo's posts but others seem to think that he is helpful also). If they are up to it maybe they could help to stop all this misinformation from floating around. If modding is too much of a responsibility and time commitment then maybe not having a nutrition forum and just having a bunch of stickied write ups with frequently asked questions might be a better option, since many of the questions are very similar.



The thing with JD is he knows his shit, there is no doubting it. But he doesn't put it into terms that people can understand. Myself and a select few others can tell exactly what he is saying. If i wasn't doing a Sports and Exercise Science course along side human biology i'd get lost with some of the terms he uses. He needs to "dumb" it down so to speak.


I appreciate it, and I may have written this post in a bit of fluster as there are actually quite a few people doling out good advice in the nutrition forum. I often re-read the shit I write and realize just how much of a douche I come across as (or am in general).

Fact of the matter is, though, that TechPB is much more friendly and welcoming to a younger (and more impressionable) crowd than any other big-time paintball forum on the internet. This is fantastic in almost every respect, and one of the main reasons I come here: I just like the people here, however young or inexperienced or curious. With a forum like the Nutrition forum, though, you've got a different animal: if someone asks if they should spend $300 on an old Spyder E-99 and a user tells them it's the deal of a lifetime and then they in turn purchase that gun, they're only out a couple hundred bucks. Nothing to scoff at, sure, but certainly not the end of the world, even for the most budget conscious paintball player. The nutrition/health forum is different. You've got people asking about Rx meds, asking about their Osgood Schlatter's diagnoses, asking about Warfarin adjustments- if even one single young, impressionable kid takes this advice the wrong way, it could end up a lot worse than a $300 POS Spyder.

I'd be happy to moderate the forum, but I didn't make the thread with that intention- I really just care the there's not a bunch of harmful bunk flying around. I don't know anyone who deals with forum management and I haven't had a single meaningful conversation with Mike, Willy or otherwise, so they have no reason to trust me (other than my top notch MCAT scores :) :tup: ) I just think that if there's one forum that needs a more watchful eye, it's that one. Ain't nobody wanna see nobody hurt.

P.S.- cosign Eskimo for mod of... well, anything. Great dude :tup:




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