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Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

pics are great, playing pics are even greater! I love looking at pictures of people rocking cockers on a field otherwise filled with boring modern guns.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:17 PM

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

Got a nice Hybrid Numatix coming tomorrow. Gonna hit up R-M-I in a bit for an MQ as well, and have her purring like a kitten when it's done.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:52 AM

the SFL came in yesterday... other then some clear wear marks from use (she is a 10 year old gun) she is in great shape... swapped out the black e1 frame for a chrome e2 frame, and put an e3 noid housing on it... took the sidewinder reg off my pump and put her on here... the guy is sending along a CP reg replace the ABS reg the SFL came with, so that will end up on the pump.... the twist lock feedneck needs to be replaced, i hate twist locks. but i can get the damn thing off, and dont want to damage it in the event that i am stck using the twist lock.

now to sell off some of my spare cocker parts and e1 frames so i can afford an NDZ frame and yakuza board, along with a new on/off... not a fan of teh direct mount CP it came with... and the hunt begins for a chrome Evo or Nexus LPR and a new bolt.... just need to figure out the bolt length... cus the nexus bolt form my orry is too long by about a 1/4 of an inch... so i am pretty sure its an evo length bolt, but not sure if the gen4 SFLs had their own unique bolt length


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

let me know if you have any delrin or E2 triggers.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

I have a worr frame with e1 FBM delrin trigger on it
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

I'd be interested in just the trigger so I can get rid if the my stock E1. If you decide to part with it keep me in mind. ;)

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

Will do... I'll let you know when I have an add posted.. I am going to be selling most of my spare cocker parts to fund this sfl project
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

Gonna make that baby purr huh? Well make sure to keep us updated. I'm in a cocker craze right now myself, all I want to do is get on the field and get some playing footage with some of mine. Just made some shooting videos today.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:11 PM

She will purr right now... But I love the looks of the ndz frame on the gen4 sfl body... A tadao board is a must IMO for any e cocker... It just bring the whole cocker to life in a way an e2 board can't... That and I have all my tadao board setting saved on my laptop from the boards I had installed in my dc2's... I want to get rid of anything chrome on it, which right now is the frame beaver tail and pneumatics... I want them to be all gloss black and either eclipse or belsales... Might put belsales internals into her as well
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:09 PM

I didn't realize you could still get a brand new NDZ frame on ebay for $129. black or chrome

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:37 PM

Compulsive sells them too

what do you guys think of the madman rocket valve? does it actually work to lower the pressure? make the gun more efficient? i am doing research on what parts i want to put on/in this SFL,and i cant decide on the valve i want to use...

and still no real ifo on bolt length either... i need to get my hands on an evo length bolt to see if they fit... that way i can get a belsales evo bolt and drill it out to lighten it up...

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

I believe the early evo bolts were short. they were 5 5/8"
pre 2000. What size do you need?

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

which ever fits the gen4 SFL body... i dont have a tape measure to measure the bolt thats in it...
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:52 AM

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

I'm having velocity issues with my S5. I took the reg off and pressure tested it, turns out it only gets to 220psi max. Looks like it's time for a rebuild. :angry:

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:37 PM

if you are using the stock CCM reg, it might be time to get a better one... i've never been a fan of CCM parts... they make a nice pump kit and bodies... but other then that... i find shocktech and belsales internals to be above and beyond better... my orry pump with eclipse/belsales internals was smoother cycling, softer shooting, and much more quiet then my 2k2 black magic with all ccm internals...
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:00 PM

The rebuild kit is $22. I went through reg and replaced the o-ring on the piston and it's still low, so it's a spring problem. I have a black magic. old pic:
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

Weird how it wont output a higher pressure than that, perhaps theres something blocking flow somehow?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

Weird how it wont output a higher pressure than that, perhaps theres something blocking flow somehow?


I've got the reg, macro and asa hooked to my gauge. My gauge assembly consists of an old asa and ashcroft guage that I use to set all my autocockers, so I know that works. Only thing left is the HPR. It will decrease in pressure but not get above 220psi. I un-screwed the WGP reg from my black magic and used the same gauge assembly, its reading 340psi. So its something in this reg that's not right, could be a bent pin or weak spring etc.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

I would just get the rebuild kit, $22 is going to be cheaper than buying a whole new reg.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:02 AM

figured i would pass this on to your all as i thought it was interesting... i cant confirm this... but in inspecting the front of the lower tube it does not appead to have a serial number that was cut off... there are no partial letters like ive seen on other bodies...

Also i forgot to mention, if you look at the serial very closely you will see you can only see a "1" on the right side of the body, it was number 1 of team aftershock guns that year. I cant say how many were made, i assume a small amount since it was for the team. But you have number 1. Thought you should know. Thats a special sfl


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

http://www.flickr.co...N04/8404856364/ here's my proof, I do plan on getting some pneumatics for it also.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

So, I finally got that ugly ass twist lock feed neck off the sfl, and replaced it with a Sanchez machine lever lock. Looks much nicer, will post pics when I can
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:57 PM

was it loctited?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

It looked like some old blue loctite... Was a pain in the ass to take off
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

I might be the new owner for a AM-P illusion. I have been looking for one of these for along time and serial number 66 is for sale. Updates to come. Looks like it's mine, these are awesome markers :wub:
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:22 PM

New WDIT video on cockers, I go a little nuts at the end.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:07 PM

Kevin, why don't you have a system X dragon? This must be corrected. ;)

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:18 PM

everytime one pops up I dont have the cash. Thats the one system X gun that holds its value, and considering it has the EXACT same parts as a Vengeance Base (which can be had for around 100), its hard to justify spending 300 on one.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

i was going through my box of parts the other day... i forgot i had a xonic chrome noid cover and 4 button FA xonic board... you guys have any idea what they are worth?
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:45 PM

not much... I picked up a spare Xonik board and eye for 20 bucks.

also, no one see my epic fanning action at the end of the video? It would have been even faster if the 3 way was lubed and not sticking. notice the backblock keeps sticking back, must have been the cold.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

:lol: Yea buddy, that's some intense fanning. I had a dragon for a short period of time. I bought the body off millertime for $100, made a pump with spare parts I had lying around and sold it.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

Maaaan, thats a good deal. I'm always looking for them, theres a grey one for sale on mcb, guy wants like 250...

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

Front block came in today, so I could finally complete it. It's mech right now, cause I just wanted to get it shooting, but as soon as I get MQs in it's gonna be e-framed. Gonna eventually get the Ultralite back bored for freaks so I don't have to use the sizer.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

I like it Dev. Forsome reason plain and simple cockers always catch my fancy.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

I'm seriously considering finding another brick body, except vert feed. I dunno though, I like right feed cause I can sight over the top. BUt then my hopper sticks out 40 feet to the right.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

Gotta use the smallest elbow possilbe. The Viewloader VL-BOW I've found to have the lowest profile, smaller than ones from PMI and GXG.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

I have an armson profeed elbow. I bought like 5 vl bows cause of how small they were. Quality seems to have gone down terribly. They all cracked so easily. This armson profeed is nice, as small profile as the vl bow but 10x more durable.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:19 PM

dev, or you could just get a vert feed body and save yourself the trouble...
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:04 PM

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picture of the serial number... and no, its not chopped off... ive never seen another SFL with a serial number like that, at least my ESFL didnt have one

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

So I just hooked up all the lpr hose on the pneus. Aired it up first time, no leaks. Hammer lug was set correctly from the last time I was using it, just had to set up the LPR which was WAYYY too high, and the timing rod. Now it's timed and sweetspotted. Shoots pretty damn great.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

The serial number on the SFL gave me a semi, that's one special marker don't sell it.......unless to me.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

I would post pictures of that SFL on Mcarter and see what they think of it.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

I don't have an account there, and I don't like the forum there so I avoid it at all costs...


But yeah, it's a very special SFL... I've already had people offer me upwards of 800 for it... I may or may not sell it at the end of this season, right now the SFL is the only electro I have, I am waiting to see what bob puts out for a new marq this coming season...
Shocktech Aftershock SFL team cocker, serial number 1
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

I have a hard time believing that's the serial number, as BBT/Shocktech used serialized WGP bodies. I've seen the claim countless times over the years "oh, I have #1 this, or #1 that," but 99.9% of the time it was just Mini chopped there or milled through, and the 1 is indicative of a 100,000+ body. Pop your frontblock and I bet there's a portion of another number under there.


example:

http://i25.tinypic.com/nnupmx.jpg

Edited by riddler, 30 January 2013 - 06:05 PM.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

That is no the case here, I've never before seen a gen4 or e-series SFL with a serial number. My esfl didn't have a serial number. Only the aftershock team SFL clockers were numbered.
Shocktech Aftershock SFL team cocker, serial number 1
Mini Orracle pump, Eclipse internals, Sanchez Machine pump kit and grip frame
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

They may well have been entirely milled over on the guns you are referencing. Doesn't change the fact that they used serialized WGP body blanks.

hey look, here are some others:

http://customcockers...k-edition<br />http://www.pbnation....ad.php?t=493935
http://customcockers...SFL-body-299-95
http://customcockers...Serial-Number-1

Edited by riddler, 30 January 2013 - 06:41 PM.





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