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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:04 PM

I know what you are saying, I've owned my fair share of mini cockers with partially there serial numbers, which is why I was skecptical at first, this isn't a partial. And I referenced it to pictures of my old esfl to make sure... And it didn't have a serial number
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

Maybe you missed the green one at the bottom of the first post in this thread?

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Looks like he stole your gun and re-anodized it dust green. :dodgy:

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

EDIT.... i did a little more digging and took a closer look at my SFL body... it does look like a 2 was partially chopped off... kind of a bummer there...

it also looks as if this was teh last body year that the SFL's had the partial serial numbers onthe nose... as the e-series has no serial number up there...


still waiting to hear back from the former owner to see where he got his info... i am certain this is a former team gun, but i am also currious as to why not all Gen4 SFL bodies have the partial serial numbers...

been confirmed... gun was bought off Chris Wright of Aftershock...

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

Sorry Andrew, but don't feel bad, it's still an epically awesome cocker.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:50 AM

i dotn feel bad at all.... its one of the Holy Grail of cockers in my book... an aftershock team members gun.... now, if i could get my hands on a London Nexus Eclipse cocker i would be in heaven....
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:45 AM

hyarr! glad to hear you have it sorted out. i wasn't trying to be a dick (well, not a total dick), but everyone always confuses residual WGP serials for actual serials. i can't speak to why the e-series SFLs don't have serials - presumably that section was milled down more than the front end of yours. offhand, i don't know what one looks like to differentiate from the other generations.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:15 AM

here is a pretty good guide as to the body generations for SFL's.... http://customcockers...-Force-and-more!

normally i dont believe shit when i see someone claim "serial number of 1!" on any gun... but i took the FB off a inspected it... didnt see anything the first time... took it off again and low and behold, barely visable is a very small part of a 2....

but hey... its still a rare fade SFL (most gen4 and e-series came with dust finishes) that was a confirmed team gun... i am happy with that
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

Just thought I'd share what I did today during class. And yes, I forgot the pump arm.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

I'm still waiting for 2 autocockers to show up and I'm getting antsy. I'm also trying to find a jam bolt for my eblade and a ccm cocking rod. Anyone have any experience with duracoat? I'm thinking about doing my ugly ass trilly instead of anno.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

The do it yourself duracoat kit would work fine for a cocker... The bake on stuff if better for real firearms... Stick with single or dual colors, anything more then that and it gets expensive
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

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Just won the auction on that cocker, 299 plus shipping. I really liked the milling and anno... gonna restore it with some awesome parts. Got good stuff planned for this cocker.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:08 PM

That's a spanky fishbone. That's a good setup, I wouldn't change anything about it. It's got descent pneumatics and a palmers reg :tup:

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:31 PM

Not a fishbone, still a spanky coccker though. This one is the yin yang model. Same idea just different milling cuts. Even has that LPC to make the valve chamber larger. I still have a few things I want to change. Posted Image

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

Yes, I do realize that now. The fishbone had the slots milled in the entire length of the lower tube. I'm not doing very well on my cocker ID tonight :lol:

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:47 PM

Me being the most indecisive idiot ever... can't decide what parts to get.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

also looks like it have a shocktech frontblock
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:55 PM

Me being the most indecisive idiot ever... can't decide what parts to get.


Really Dev, that autococker has some of the better parts already on it.
-Palmers HPR
-Kapp frame, which are awesome and pretty rare.
-either an old palmers or kapp lpr
-shocktech lpc
-Sto ram
I would love to own that. You should just sell it to me :P
Personally it think your wasting your money trying to buy part for this marker, except maybe a delrin bolt.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:27 PM

Yeah, you're probably right. I just like everything to be the best it can be. Heh.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

Yeah, you're probably right. I just like everything to be the best it can be. Heh.


If you wanted the "best" thing out there, you probably wouldn't have bought the 'cocker. It doesn't have modez, weighs more than a G6R, etc. As it stands, that marker is more or less original and period-accurate. That's not something I'd mess with to improve "performance."

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:11 PM

It's a shock tech lpr and ram... Pretty much a complete shocktech front block. You don't want to change out any of pneus.... They are top of the line. But you should eblade it...
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:04 PM


Yeah, you're probably right. I just like everything to be the best it can be. Heh.


If you wanted the "best" thing out there, you probably wouldn't have bought the 'cocker. It doesn't have modez, weighs more than a G6R, etc. As it stands, that marker is more or less original and period-accurate. That's not something I'd mess with to improve "performance."



Well that's not really what I meant but I see what you mean

It's a shock tech lpr and ram... Pretty much a complete shocktech front block. You don't want to change out any of pneus.... They are top of the line. But you should eblade it...


Alright thanks for the info, one thing though...

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Any idea what the 3 way on it is?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

Not a shocktech... Either kapp or sto... Spankies were milled from kapp milled bodies I believe
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

Alright thanks, worth getting a shocktech bomb or belsales hollowpoint over it?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

Could be
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

Alright thanks, well that just cleared the belsales 44 ram and belsales lpr off my buy list.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:06 PM

I've never seen this asked.. Couldn't you just put a 2k back block onto a pre 2k cocker and be able to put a 2k bolt onto it? Or is the body itself of a pre2k cocker a different length from a 2k cocker

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:23 PM

all you need to swap is the backblock... but don't do it.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

why not? It's not like I'm gonna throw the back block away. If I ever decide to sell it again, I'd put the stock parts back on. is there any other reason why?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

maybe it's just me, but i don't think it's right to buy a perfectly nice, composed, complete classic 'cocker and fuck it all up with anachronous (and likely non-matching) parts.

i liken it to buying a mint condition classic car and immediately pulling the numbers-matching engine to drop in a honda 4-banger with cantaloupe-shooter exhaust garbage.

gonna drill it while you're at it?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

Might as well. The only good cocker is an e-cocker.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:16 AM

Be like Odyssey, and drill the bodies for eyes from the factory, even though they never made an electro verion of any kind.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:17 AM

they way i look at it, there are only a few cockers out there that are a sin to alter from their factory condition... PBx (not much you can alter) Nexus Cockers, Westwoods, SFL's(if its not factory drilled, dont drill it)... i see no issue with wanting to put a pump kit on a Nexus body, as long as the factory parts are kept. same with pre2k cockers... if you want to tap the front block for 2k+ threading, go for it, if you want to replace the giant pre2k back block, go for it, just make sure you keep the factory parts...

i have a Kapp Lava Cocker a few years back, i beliebe it was a pre2k body, could be wrong though, and the guy i got it off of had replace the factory back block with some shitty Cole one with a threaded bolt... worst back block/bolt i've ever seen... i never could find a match anodized factory back block... killed the resale value of the gun
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:32 PM

So, it's looking like my bike has sold... Which means I might pick up that red esfl for sale on CCF and then sell my gen4 sfl...
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

There has been alot of mice shocktech markers lately on CCF including this gem tequila sunrise SFL
I got this E1 swift from klub a little while ago for $215 shipped. I tore it down yesterday to see what parts I got:
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-Palmers micro rock
-Ans IVG kit
-Freeflow tungsten hammer <-- Rare and very heavy
-Freeflow ram, which was bent during shipping :( Ansgear ram is on there for now.
-Shocktech 3:16 Rat valve <--Hard to find
-Ans hpr
All and all I think I did pretty good, had the gun ripping with these settings: 18bps, very bouncy :P
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

SO yeah, can't decide what backblock to get now. I fail.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:10 PM

If you want to go with a +2k bolt then you need a backblock also due to the different bolt lengths and back block spacing . Basically any +2K backblock that looks good will work and then you can use a +2k bolt.

I would buy used from mcarterbrown or customcockers.

Edited by cocker addict, 05 February 2013 - 04:12 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

I am also debating on selling my orry. Pump and picking up an MVP
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

i'd wait till they revised the sear latch point, personally.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

Pbgateway.com has them listed for 495... That's a fair price for what you get. I don't mind that the sear and auto trigger are not user serviceable... From what I've seen it's a sweet shooter all around
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:50 PM

Pbgateway.com has them listed for 495... That's a fair price for what you get. I don't mind that the sear and auto trigger are not user serviceable... From what I've seen it's a sweet shooter all around


it's not the serviceable part that bothers me - it's just that the sear latch grabs at about 75% of the pump stroke instead of at the end of it. Feels wrong and results in a soupy mess until you're used to it.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:23 PM

So I received my cocker, anyone have any idea what brand this hammer and ivg are?

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

thats different, definitely old school

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:20 AM

no idea on the hammer itself... but the IVG looks similar to a rex dialer in that it uses a smaller spring incased in a SS housing... most IVG's that i've used are a simple brass screw that fits in the back o the lower tube... not a SS slug like that

after i look at it again... it dawned on my that the lower tube sleeve for the Spankies might not be threaded, so that could well be a spany IVG or one that was custom made for guns like Spankies that have a press fit sleeve for the lower tube... if you want to upgrade, or change IVG's, your only bet may well be a Rex Dialer... was this IVG held in place by the beaver tail retention screw?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:53 AM

Yeah the bottom tube is not threaded for standrd ivgs. And it is held in by the beavertail screw. So im just gonna get the belsales upgrade kit, might as well

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:47 AM

Why not just keep that? It's has novelty cool to it and does exactly what a Rex does

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:49 AM

a rex wont be any easier to adjust unless you get a back block that has an adjustment hole drilled into it
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#1998 riddler

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

The threaded IVG was only added to WGP bodies in '98. Spanky bodies with the tube inserts always used the old style, which works just fine - I have 4 or 5 guns that use it.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:43 AM

God there is so much to learn about cockers. Lol

I never get wipers, blood is hard to wipe off.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:11 AM

i am going to be doing tech on cockers for the site i write for, paintballtech.net... if there is anything you guys want to see or have questions on, let me know, and i will see wabout putting them in my articles and walk throughs
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