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#1 -ORaNGe-

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 02:19 PM

DWOLF is in Canada and purchasing tien's Ego 11, the sales thread can be seen here.

http://www.techpb.co...howtopic=154940

DWOLF will gift the money for the gun to me as well as the $20 fee, I will confirm the money has arrived and that it is fine for tien to ship. Once the gun arrives and DWOLF has inspected it and given it the thumbs up the money will be gifted to tien.

I will leave feedback for both DWOLF and tien, and in turn they can leave me feedback for the deal. Every bit of info about shipping, arrival times and condition of the gun will be posted here, if anyone has any questions feel free to ask anytime.

So you guys know how it works, this is pasted from my third party thread.

Here is how the process will work.

Step 1

The buyer of the marker will forward me the cost of the marker plus $20 for the fee for the holdings service. This money will be sent as a Gift, this way I won't have to pay fees on the full amount of a markerl. So if you are buying a $300 marker you would send me $320 to cover the cost of the service.

Step 2

Seller is contacted and informed I'm holding the funds. The seller then ships out the product.

Step 3

Buyer receives product and inspects it, once he confirms it is fine I will forward the money to the seller as a gift so he gets his cash, nobody has to worry about being scammed, and best of all the seller doesn't pay any fees. This service pays for itself when selling most markers considering you're safe WITHOUT paying the fees on the sale, this is basically a free third party service because of this system.

For this I will only do the holding if the seller ships with tracking, insurance and signature confirmation, this will avoid.

"The gun never got here! HE SCAMMED ME!"
- it has signature confirmation, you need to sign as proof it arrived.

"The gun is leaking and a paperweight"
- I'm holding your money it's safe, if he won't pay return shipping too bad for him. Return shipping money will be sent to me, I'll tell you it's with me and you send it back. I will then refund the cost the gun, and send you the money for the return shipping.

"The gun got lost in the mail and never arrived"
- You got a tracking number so you have an idea of where it got lost and if it isn't found you have insurance to cover the cost of the gun.


Your money will ALWAYS be safe and will not leave my hands until you have inspected and confirmed your new product. You won't have to wait longer for your marker because of it having to be shipped twice (seller to third party, third party to buyer) Just seller to buyer, money is sent to seller. Basically you both now have the benefits of "Shipping first". Yes the seller will have to wait until the package arrives to receive the funds but in the US shipping can take as little as 2 days. Not long to wait if you made the sale BECAUSE the buyer felt safe.

If you have any questions at all PM me and I can explain further =)


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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:44 PM

can we get a final price???

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 10:40 PM

Whatever the price of the gun is $20 is my price, just waiting on tien to post the final sale price, nudge him in the PM to post up here.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:18 PM

Oh wow, this is the thread you guys been posting on. -_____- been mislead by posting in the pm convo's or my thread.

1150 for gun + 20 for shipping + 20 for middle man fees, all gifted into orange account total of 1190. I am covering half your shipping for you :tup:

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 11:24 PM

my PayPal is iamtheshagman@hotmail.com, once I've received it (a notification in here would be just spiffy) I'll let tien know it's all safe and sound and he can ship the gun out.

Tien, also be sure to get a tracking number and PM it to DWOLF and myself, as well as have insurance and signature confirmation on it.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:35 PM

i got the cash early so im ready to pay. so i send the money to the hotmail account above???

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:06 PM

DWOLF yes send it to orange hotmail account. I am the shag man, haha. Anyways i am going to take more pictures and post it up for you to SHOW you that this gun is almost brand new. Reason i am doing this is because i have received my luxe 1.5 today and it was listed as lnib, it looked like shit. I am uploading the picture as we speak.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:32 PM

Here is my luxe 1.5 that was listed LNIB.

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Here is your Ego 11, i opened it up a little more to show you that it is LNIB

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 05:24 AM

wow that sucks man, that Luxe is for sure not LNIB. thanks for the extra pics. the gun looks sweet! cant wait to shoot it. i am off to work right now so i will send the money to orange when i get home around 5 or so.

Edited by DWOLF, 14 July 2011 - 07:03 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 06:59 AM

scored a day off work, just waiting to hear from Orange and the cash will be sent.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:06 PM

I replied a while ago, and tien, feel free to leave that guy some negative feedback, I'll even cap him for a 2 day ban for not properly describing the item, just give me his name.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:11 PM

the money has been sent to orange, lets get this deal done.

Edited by DWOLF, 14 July 2011 - 03:11 PM.


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:16 PM

Cash received, $1190, you can ship now tien. Please remember the insurance/tracking/signature confirmation and all that good stuff.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:34 PM

Ok going to get her packaged up good and get you guys the shipping info

Orange the guy was over at pbnation, im never buying a used gun. Learned my lesson ill just buy new like i did with the ego, less headache.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 05:03 PM

UPS didnt want to ship it because it was under there restriction. They supplied everything i need, insurance, tracking, and signature conformation.

USPS almost shipped it until i got the item back, they only insure up to 650. No signature conformation and no tracking number.

Orange what is your take?

I am going to try fedex but i might have to lie what is in the box.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 05:06 PM

Doing some research, looks like usps is my best bet. But they dont supply me tracking number, limited insurance (650) and no sure on sign conformation

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:26 PM

that's weird man, how are ppl sending paintball gunz then??? lets see what orange says then.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:33 PM

Your best bet would be to put it in a USPS Priority Box and as for Delivery Confermation (Same as Tracking Number) and Insurance up to 650. Most wont do more on Ins than a certain amount.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:24 PM

Yeah orange rules are easier from state to state, we're going to have to modify that for country to country. Dwolf, i wouldnt be worry you'll get your gun anyways just a matter of orange rules.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:47 PM

USPS should supply a tracking number, I've received several items from them and they always had a tracking number. One thing about USPS is this, it seems like it very much depends on who you're talking to at the time, I've also had signature confirmation as well. It just sounds like the person you were talking to didn't know what they were talking about. Maybe call the post office tomorrow and ask them, if they say no, ask to talk to a manager.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 11:56 AM

Will try again right now, standby.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 12:07 PM

USPS insurance is limited depending on the type of shipping service you're using. Priority mail with delivery confirmation is capped much lower than something like, certified mail. International shipping also makes things difficult. Priority Mail does not have package "tracking" like Fedex/UPS do. Delivery Confirmation service is strictly proof that the package has been delivered. If you want tracking you need to use a faster/higher service like Express Mail.

Priority Mail® International is limited to $675.
Express Mail® International is limited to $5,000.

Based on the shipping calculator at USPS.com the total shipping price from California to Canada is $71 at the post office, or $66 if paid/printed on the website.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 12:52 PM

Express mail is for documents isnt it? im looking at it right now.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:03 PM

Thanks Crazy.

Whichever shipping method you guys use is fine with me as long as both of you agree.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:24 PM

I went ahead and sent, ups and fedex wont allow me because restriction.

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Item will be there in ~6 business day.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:39 PM

Okay cool, once it arrives and DWOLF gives ye olde thumbs up I'll forward you the $1170 as a gift, no fees FTW.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:44 PM

Express mail is for documents isnt it? im looking at it right now.


No, you can send parcels express mail. There's just no "flat-rate" option. I calculated that postage rate based on a 10lb, 12" cube box going from CA to Canada. Good luck with the sale :)

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:58 PM

Thanks, i asked for every option at usps to ensure that will meet orange standards. After 30 minute of talking with various employee's, I just gave up and simply shipped it out flat rate. I have nothing to worry about anyways i'm not scamming anyone in the first place.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 03:50 PM

cool thanks for all u have done, cant wait to get her!!!

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:48 PM

*twiddles thumbs*

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:36 AM

I'm hoping any day now..........

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:11 PM

Should be there soon, ill give em a call tmrw morning.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:51 PM

gun has arrived!!! so sweet i just shot it, shoots ropes. send the man his money, thanks both of u for this smooth transaction. only bad thing is customs dinged me for 80 bucks at the door.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:49 PM

Nice glad you like it

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 07:17 AM

Money was sent last night, just forgot to update that here.




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