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#1 Trum_15

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:30 PM

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I have learned that Angel Sports is ceasing operations. I don’t know all the details, not sure it really matters. They will make announcements concerning this shortly. I have been assured by the UK office that parts will be available to service the markers. The details of this arrangement should become clear in the near future, and should be announced by the UK office this week. For the near future, both myself and Bob at Fix My Angel (www.fixmyangel.com) have parts in stock in the US for your customers.


I have some items in stock personally, and will be willing to honor your dealer pricing (or give you an even better deal) where I can on those items. Anyone looking for accessories, or especially clothing, please contact me asap and we’ll see what we can work out. Once these items are gone, I am not sure I can get more.


Because I feel an obligation to the players, teams, and dealers I have worked with, I will continue to monitor and use the jay@angelsports.com email. I have been assured that it will work for some time. If that turns out not to be the case, I have set up a personal email account, pballjay@gmail.com that I will begin to monitor if the angelsports.com email fails or ceases to exist. I will continue to maintain and monitor my mobile number, XXXXXXXX so that any of you that wish to reach me will be able to do so.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:31 PM

Edit: had same thing as OP

its really sad to see the last of the original 3 electronic markers finally die

i wish they wouldve mergered a long time ago,
i guess we will never see the Angel Eyes

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:50 PM

yeah, catshack just came out with that same letter http://www.catshackr...intball-closes/

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:54 PM

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:55 PM

I guess angel eyes just became a super rare collectors item. Now to bribe somebody to get a pair. :D

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:57 PM

So, that's why the Eyes were never finished?

I show up at a field that I never been to before for some rec-play wearing cargo pants with a t-shirt....carrying a old mech Spyder and two pringle potato chip cans for pods shoved in the pants pockets. The stares are priceless and after the first game or so you get to see the grins from the ref and players who know....priceless.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 12:59 PM

(forehead hits the keyboard)


It is a shock indeed.... Now I see why the Angel eyes never happened.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:15 PM

well, i was considering sell my LE 2k4 LCD .... now ill be holding on to that one ...
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:16 PM

And paintball just keeps getting smaller and smaller
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:21 PM

Wow...

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:22 PM

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:36 PM

I had at least three conversations at the field this weekend that revolved around the theme of "I can't believe that Angel is still around" - I guess this is the answer to that conversation.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:38 PM

I actually expected this a year or 2 ago
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:40 PM

Wow, what's with all the companies going out today? (Granted Social came back, but still)
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

Bad News. Its a shame when a well respected and beloved company like that disappears. One day they may reamerge better than before but only time will tell. Good luck WDP.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:03 PM

It sucks to see a paintball company go, but im really not suprised by angel going under.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:13 PM

:unsure: i have always wanted an angel

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:21 PM

While I never owned a WDP product, this does make a little sad.

At LL3/4 (I can't remember which for certain), While I was loading my gear into the hotel, I was told by a player someone who was working/assisting at the Angel booth, that Angel was going to be bought by Tiberius. At the time, I reflected on the fact that Angel debuted their AR:K with a Tiberius stock, and I still found it a little unlikely. But, now I can't help but think if this is/was somehow related.

I'd be interested to find out what happened to Angel's Intellectual Property (i.e. Patents).


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:30 PM

So I wonder who will take the angel platform... Wouldn't them closing end the patents and all that legal stuff?

Sad day indeed for paintball, Angels were the marker to have when I first started, it was weird watching them slowly become less and less popular. Last year I thought they were making a decent comeback too. Worst news in paintball since the downfall of AKA...


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:32 PM

So I wonder who will take the angel platform... Wouldn't them closing end the patents and all that legal stuff?


no. Until we find out what happens with the stuff the company owns (including the IP stuff) we won't know where it'll end up.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:35 PM

very very sad, i have my first angel coming in the mail right now.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:37 PM

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:41 PM

well that sucks, i had me and 2 friends looking at the angel line of guns, maybe something to compete with the egos in the same range, but now i think ill go P.E. Also i wanted the ANGEL EYES. i love paintball but no product has caught my attention more than that mask. i wouldve bought them even if they didnt protect you at all, just to look awesome. Hopefully angel comes back or someone else gets the IP and markets the eyes. id be so happy

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:53 PM

Hmmm. Isn't PE coming out with a mask? Maybe they bought the EYES and finishing development? I can dream right?lol. Sad to see another company go, especially one that built quality markers.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:56 PM

I'd be interested to find out what happened to Angel's Intellectual Property (i.e. Patents).


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:02 PM

Even tho I dont like WDP/Angel its sad to see them go
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:11 PM

Everyone is missing the implications: We are losing manufacturers and no one is taking their places. For a lot of reasons this bothers me.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:14 PM

itellectual property i know WDP/APS had:

OLED screens in paintball guns
a small part of the SP electric gun patent sold to them by one of the creators

as for the angle platform ... frankly, i dont think anyone is terribly interested.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:17 PM

I dont really care for Angel guns, or anything else they make really, but I've never used anything they've made, so thats my expert opinion out of the way. As I see it if they were that great they'd be more popular, either way, its shitty news for a paintball company to just put a stop to it after such a long time, shame.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:22 PM

Hmmm... wonder if DK will ever show up.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:26 PM

itellectual property i know WDP/APS had:

OLED screens in paintball guns
a small part of the SP electric gun patent sold to them by one of the creators

as for the angle platform ... frankly, i dont think anyone is terribly interested.




Ive got a feeling Kee will want to pick up those patents



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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:26 PM

I know it's a downer for a lot of people since for so long Angel was a cornerstone of the industry, but realistically this is survival of the fittest, paintball is CRAMMED with manufacturers all trying to make a buck and claim their chunk of the pie.

Tippmann
Kingman/Spyder
Planet Eclipse
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Bob Long
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Kee
BT
DLX
Azodin
GOG
MacDev
Tiberius
CCM

Then there are countless other small/new manufacturers (markers)

Hostile Creations
Mokal
Valken
Inspire

etc. etc.

There are dozens of manufacturers and paintball is a very small market for that many manufacturers to be able to make sales from, let alone when the used market is so strong. Angel has been out of the loop for a long time, their products and designs long outdated, I'm just surprised it took this long. The good manufacturers will stick around, the ones who can't cut a profit won't but I'm sure there will be no shortage of people trying to jump into the market for their shot to make it big and rake in MILLIONS! :dodgy:

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:31 PM

ya it really sucks and ya business is like that

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:33 PM

Im wondering whats gunna happen with ans gear and the angel eyes, all the people who pre ordered them. This is going to get ugly.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:36 PM

ANS will just end up refunding them, they're pretty on the ball I'm sure it shouldn't be too much of an issue, though a pain in the ass for them of course. I'm sure APS likely gave all the retailers a heads up though to get ready for it.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:38 PM

This day just keeps getting worse and worse.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:38 PM

And paintball just keeps getting smaller and smaller


This.. sad, sad day. What used to be one REALLY great company.. ugh

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:38 PM

Well this is sad, Never owned an angel, but it's a shame to see such an old company go
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:41 PM

Noooo, i love my Angel barrel sock... (its the only Angel product I've ever owned)

But I still want a Speed 2004.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:45 PM

They will be missed, for sure not getting rid of my LCD now


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:53 PM

The Angel platform has potential, if Angel had better marketing they would have sold more markers. They shoot great.

If someone were to use the Angels platform and change the look of the marker, it may actually be a hit. Angel just needed a change in style, the A1 style was odd and they kept that look for years. They just kept adding small things to the A1 each and every year and that obviously wasn't working.

Hopefully we see more three tubed markers in the future... Now that Angel is gone we have none.




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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:59 PM

Noooo, i love my Angel barrel sock... (its the only Angel product I've ever owned)

But I still want a Speed 2004.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:00 PM

Just goes to show what bad publicity can do to a company.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:02 PM

Just like many others i cant say im surprised. Still never good to see a company like Angel who is known by everyone shut its doors.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:06 PM

Seems very sudden. Didn't they just release a new version or the AR:K?

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:14 PM

Seems very sudden. Didn't they just release a new version or the AR:K?


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:15 PM


So I wonder who will take the angel platform... Wouldn't them closing end the patents and all that legal stuff?


no. Until we find out what happens with the stuff the company owns (including the IP stuff) we won't know where it'll end up.


As long as it doesn't end up in the hands of some cheap Taiwanese or Chinese company that'll bring out the worst possible guns, I'll be happy.
I'd love to see a smaller company buy up the patents, and put them to use in bringing out some redesigned bodies to incorporate the 3 tube design, while not looking like a hunk o' junk.

If a respectable group of investors(sounds like an oxy-moron....) or another company picked this up, I'd be very happy to see a new company pick up the designs and move forward. I feel like at least 3/4 of the Angel hate came from a young player "knowing this ONE GUY, who is most definitely a strong source, who said Angels are crap".
If I had a dime for every time I heard that from a player I think I'd have enough to buy some of the patents myself.....

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:31 PM

As long as it doesn't end up in the hands of some cheap Taiwanese or Chinese company that'll bring out the worst possible guns, I'll be happy.
I'd love to see a smaller company buy up the patents, and put them to use in bringing out some redesigned bodies to incorporate the 3 tube design, while not looking like a hunk o' junk.

If a respectable group of investors(sounds like an oxy-moron....) or another company picked this up, I'd be very happy to see a new company pick up the designs and move forward. I feel like at least 3/4 of the Angel hate came from a young player "knowing this ONE GUY, who is most definitely a strong source, who said Angels are crap".
If I had a dime for every time I heard that from a player I think I'd have enough to buy some of the patents myself.....



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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:34 PM


As long as it doesn't end up in the hands of some cheap Taiwanese or Chinese company that'll bring out the worst possible guns, I'll be happy.
I'd love to see a smaller company buy up the patents, and put them to use in bringing out some redesigned bodies to incorporate the 3 tube design, while not looking like a hunk o' junk.

If a respectable group of investors(sounds like an oxy-moron....) or another company picked this up, I'd be very happy to see a new company pick up the designs and move forward. I feel like at least 3/4 of the Angel hate came from a young player "knowing this ONE GUY, who is most definitely a strong source, who said Angels are crap".
If I had a dime for every time I heard that from a player I think I'd have enough to buy some of the patents myself.....



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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:38 PM

All I can say is that I expected that
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