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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:25 AM

as for the Feedneck, I wonder if anyone has come up with a little trick to separate it without doing damage.

I wish there was. I hate removing it, but it looks like I'll be playing OC for awhile, so I'll be good. Getting either my new Ultra tank, or getting a loaner tank from my pro-shop today! Shooting video maybe? I pre-ordered the Empire Ultra tank in October, and since I was constantly waiting, the owner gives me a Pure Energy 68/45 to use whenever I got out until mine comes in, which might be today.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:39 AM

Once I get a good look at the feedneck I'll see if there is a tool or a shape which works in preventing the anno from scratching off.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:46 AM

Once I get a good look at the feedneck I'll see if there is a tool or a shape which works in preventing the anno from scratching off.

Awesome! If you do, I'll write it in and you'll be credited!
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:07 AM

I got sent one to review by Greg Huff (Huff N Puff), and for the few weeks I've had it, it's been an interesting time. I do like it, but the pump stroke isn't the smoothest thing in the world, mainly because of the bolt. I'll get to that later, but I've found that using the Hitman mod piece causes some slight binding/grinding of the guide rod inside the pump handle. It's not terrible, but certainly noticeable. Now the bolt's orings interact with the dual detents, and create moments of tension/friction during the pump stroke that I feel shouldn't be there. When I pump the handle, I can feel the rings moving passed the detents, and it creates an uneven pump stroke that sort of bothers me after getting used to the pump stroke of a CCM. I'll be putting up a comparison video over the weekend, and I talk about that at some length.

As for the feedneck, what I use (since this isn't my gun) is the spudger type of tool from my Leatherman (also found on some larger Swiss Army knives), wrapped in masking tape, or any kind of robust tape. Electrical tape works also, and is less prone to being ripped through by the feedneck joint.

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And here's the thing I use for the feedneck (I'd wrap it in about 7-10 layers of tape):


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:27 AM

Thanks Stick! I've been told that you could take the front bolt O-Ring off, but I believe the marker is louder, and then there is some other slight drawback that I can't remember. I've found as long as you pump it with a nice force, you hardly feel the O-Ring rubbing past the detents.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:48 AM

Removing it might also cause blow back in the breech, since I'm sure it's meant to seal off the barrel when the ball is fired. The bolt would have to be machined specifically to fit there to operate well without an oring...

I guess I've gotten used to the luxurious smoothness of the CCM pumps. I'm saddened by it, because when you remove the bolt, the pump kit itself is absolutely smooth. No binding, no grinding, nothing. 100% smooth the entire length of the stroke. Once that bolt starts messing with the detents...bleh. Also, the tube feeder is often erroneously called a stock class feed. The presence of the spring keeps it from being a stock class feed... so stock, it's not a stock class. Remove spring for stock class nomenclature. Posted Image There's some semantics for ya.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 12:04 PM

Removing it might also cause blow back in the breech, since I'm sure it's meant to seal off the barrel when the ball is fired. The bolt would have to be machined specifically to fit there to operate well without an oring...

I'm not too tech savy with paintball... blow back in the breech would hurt what? Or is it just an annoyance?
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:59 PM

Air blowing back into the breech is wasted air, and also puts shock and pressure on the ball stack in the feedneck. There's a risk of damaging paint depending on the existing pressure on the stack.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:40 PM

Air blowing back into the breech is wasted air, and also puts shock and pressure on the ball stack in the feedneck. There's a risk of damaging paint depending on the existing pressure on the stack.

What if I was using a shake-and-bake, and loss of efficiency wasn't an issue to me? Would there be enough pressure to break balls?
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:02 PM

I don't know. Try it out.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:20 PM

there not enough pressure to crack a ball, the air just moves around it. In a gravity feed, air blowing up past the ball actually just prevents gravity from pulling on it at full acceleration, so you can actually slightly slow the rate of the paintball falling, but almost never enough to break a ball.

Also: I wonder if a better bolt, or at least a more precisely machined bolt would be the solution to the issue. By slightly sanding down the nubbins a bit, and with a better machined bolt, one which does not have an Oring but is machined to seal itself better.
if you could smooth out a majority of the stroke.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 03:53 PM

Just shot my Sniper, and I love it! Pumping gets tiring, but it felt great. I only had to shake my loader about three times during the whole hopper. I'm super excited to be getting into pump!
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:44 PM

Hey jarz, I'm wondering, how old are you?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:50 PM

Hey jarz, I'm wondering, how old are you?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:28 PM

question. Is there a big velocity difference from holding the pump forward and not holding it (ie holding the reg instead?)

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:40 PM

The anno is in fact, gorgeous.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:44 PM

Very thorough and well done. :tup: If I wasn't so in love with the idea of getting a CCM, I'd be all over a sniper.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:46 PM

Very thorough and well done. :tup: If I wasn't so in love with the idea of getting a CCM, I'd be all over a sniper.

Thanks! It means a lot that most of the people who read this are happy!
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 09:47 PM

The ES looks way better with a different anno.

I played a game with the ES, to be honest it works and I had no problems, but it's not anything to be excited about to me.

I don't know WHY they work, but they outperform anything on the market hands down...and they're MADE IN AMERICA.


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:02 AM

The ES looks way better with a different anno.

I played a game with the ES, to be honest it works and I had no problems, but it's not anything to be excited about to me.

I just think that, for the price, it competes with the higher-end pumps and is a great marker for someone who wants to start with a great pump, wants to upgrade without high-end pricing, and wants a good bang for their buck. I want to attract people to this pump I like very much. This thread gives people ideas of what is on the marker and what comes with it, as well as a place to ask questions and such.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:23 PM

Okay I'm stealing this off MCB but it must be shown: Dands Hown the most verbally splooging anno ever.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:40 PM

Okay I'm stealing this off MCB but it must be shown: Dands Hown the most verbally splooging anno ever.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:38 AM

Okay I'm stealing this off MCB but it must be shown: Dands Hown the most verbally splooging anno ever.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:44 AM

Dat purple.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:24 PM

Dat Phan.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:57 PM

I am interested in getting an Empire Sniper, but I have a couple of questions. First, what is maintenance like for the Sniper ( what needs oil, what should I do after a day of play, what should I do after x number of case, etc.? Also, since this would only be my second gun, how complicated is it to open and take apart?

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:16 PM

Just like any other sniper/autococker, just run some oil through the asa every once and a while, you don't have to do it too often.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:19 PM

I will say I did encounter two problems I did not mention:

- I could not get the marker to climb past about 260fps. I will try to see if my shop has a chrono, otherwise next time I'm at the field, I will try to fix it.

- The macroline would leak if I aired if off, then back on occasionally. I just wiggled the line and where the air goes into the reg for a little and it was fine, and I'd flip the macroline. I'm not sure how I'm going to prevent this in the long run though.

If anyone has solutions, I will gladly accept them and credit you in the article.

I will say I did encounter two problems I did not mention:

- I could not get the marker to climb past about 260fps. I will try to see if my shop has a chrono, otherwise next time I'm at the field, I will try to fix it.

- The macroline would leak if I aired if off, then back on occasionally. I just wiggled the line and where the air goes into the reg for a little and it was fine, and I'd flip the macroline. I'm not sure how I'm going to prevent this in the long run though.

If anyone has solutions, I will gladly accept them and credit you in the article.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:20 PM

I'd just sweetspot the reg.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:22 PM

I'd just sweetspot the reg.

I just read that 250psi will get me about 280-290fps.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:24 PM

Just sweetspot it, don't worry what the pressure is.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 10:15 PM

Sweetspotting the reg isn't something that you should waste your time with at this point. The manual states the optimal settings for pressure, as well as location of the IVG. Set it to what it was stock, and if increasing the pressure isn't working, then just adjust it via the IVG.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:54 PM

Played with my Empire Sniper over the weekend and I LOVE IT!! I just took the return spring out and the hitman mod off, and it is my new pump baby. (G6R is my baby baby lol)

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:02 PM

Played with my Empire Sniper over the weekend and I LOVE IT!! I just took the return spring out and the hitman mod off, and it is my new pump baby. (G6R is my baby baby lol)

I love mine too! I just no hitman mod, but still use the return spring.
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:26 PM

im the proud owner of one now... and i love it (even though ive just walked around the house with it). :)

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:14 PM

I've heard mixed reviews of this marker. I'd be totally down to get one (my local shop just got some in). So, owners, are you happy with your Sniper?
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:17 PM

I love mine. I think it comes packed with features, and I loved playing with it!
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:39 PM

I've heard mixed reviews of this marker. I'd be totally down to get one (my local shop just got some in). So, owners, are you happy with your Sniper?


I love my sniper to death. perfect for the price. Not going to lie i am saving up for a CCM but my sniper is defiantly a great upper middle class pump. i would actually rate it a highend pump. for 420$ its a steal.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

Mine came packed with fiber.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:23 PM

Mine came packed with fiber.

Hey, that's a good thing! Not cardboard fiber, right? ;)
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:44 PM

I'll be going to my pro-shop to get a chrono and work to get this thing up to about 280 (my field's limit), and I'll tell you my results. I'm thinking I just have to bump the reg pressure up a bit, but we'll see.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:48 PM

I'll be going to my pro-shop to get a chrono and work to get this thing up to about 280 (my field's limit), and I'll tell you my results. I'm thinking I just have to bump the reg pressure up a bit, but we'll see.


Mine hits 280 at 275ish. but i run mine at 297.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:03 AM

Alrighty men, JUST got my empire sniper in, so Pictures will be up once i have nicer lighting over here. and of course i do have a question.

For the Autotrigger, WHERE do you generally want it to "trip/Activate" more forward in the pump stroke or more to the middle? or the end of your pump stroke (when the handle is closer to the "outwards" position again)

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:36 AM

Alrighty men, JUST got my empire sniper in, so Pictures will be up once i have nicer lighting over here. and of course i do have a question.

For the Autotrigger, WHERE do you generally want it to "trip/Activate" more forward in the pump stroke or more to the middle? or the end of your pump stroke (when the handle is closer to the "outwards" position again)

also: My bolt has like... a metric shit ton of lube LOL. so much looob.

Mine came RIGHT before the pump arm was at the end of the stroke (outward). It works great for me there. Mine came with a ton of lube too. After my first day of play, I wiped it down and did a light coat.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:48 AM

I've heard that so of the snipers have come with the timing way off, just to let you know.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:50 AM

alright, looking at my sniper. It auto triggers RIGHT before the O-ring touches the Exit of the feedneck hole.

meaning when it autotriggers its maybe 0.75 or 1.0 mm away from making the seal between bolt and feedneck,

So how do I adjust the auto trigger, I head you pull out the bolt pin. and there is an allen key hole. stick it in and if you screw in (or down into the marker) it trips earlier, if you screw it out, then it trips later.

I need the activiation point to trip like. 0.75mm after where it currently sits.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:39 PM

alright, looking at my sniper. It auto triggers RIGHT before the O-ring touches the Exit of the feedneck hole.

meaning when it autotriggers its maybe 0.75 or 1.0 mm away from making the seal between bolt and feedneck,

So how do I adjust the auto trigger, I head you pull out the bolt pin. and there is an allen key hole. stick it in and if you screw in (or down into the marker) it trips earlier, if you screw it out, then it trips later.

I need the activiation point to trip like. 0.75mm after where it currently sits.

I'm not too great with it. Check the MCB thread on the first page, and if you need to register, you can do so and ask him the question. Mine came timed nicely so I had to need for adjustments.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:42 PM

Adjust your lug depth.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:53 PM

righty, just read the online manuel.
Seems straight forward, except they dont specify which way to turn it in or out. Soooooooooo...

turn out?

Edited by Eskimo, 28 January 2012 - 12:53 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:12 PM

You'll want to turn it in a little bit, to make the sear hold the hammer for just that much longer.

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