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#1 OneManArmy

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:51 PM

Well I'm trying to decide between multicam and Digital woodland camo. So what one would YOU choose?
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:53 PM

Neither... swiss alpenflauge for the win!

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:55 PM

Lol thanks Sean!
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:12 PM

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Yeah, you'll blend right in with that... :P

What camo you choose should really be based on the environments you're playing in. Where are you at?
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:35 PM

I'm in Mississippi, but I play alot in northern states like Wisconsin and Illinois! Lol
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:46 PM

I'm in Mississippi, but I play alot in northern states like Wisconsin and Illinois! Lol


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Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:53 PM

Really it's both
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:21 AM

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:27 AM

BT woodland digi camo. The pants, jesery and gloves will run you just at 100 on ANS and I have used them every weekend for 6 months in speedball the woods mud everything. They are amazing.



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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:50 AM

If you want good quality camo and a reasonable price go to an outfitter store for hunting. Cabelas.com or Basspro.com are very good palces to get camo from.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:32 AM

For up here in the Wisconsin region both work well but when I think of MS I think of a darker setting so the woodland is probably a better fit.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 02:15 AM

Yea I play mostly up north. I think I might get some multicam for ease of buying Molle gear
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:37 AM

planet eclipe camo is really good
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:37 AM

Can't go wrong with a good set of woodland digi multicam. See if you can scrounge up some old Marine Corps BDU's, they will take a beating and keep on going.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:09 PM

Id just go with the woodland digies man its typically a lot cheaper and more available then multicam

Add up the total setup for both patterns and buy the cheaper one of the 2....camo helps in the woods but only to a point

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:26 PM

In bot Northern IL and Northern WI I've noticed that In the summer when the colors are very deep, woodland or Marpat work best. In the early Spring and late Fall when colors are either lighter green or starting to turn light brown multicam works best. Personally I use Woodland but am debating looking into some Multicam for the other months.




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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:44 PM

I think you should (if you can) look into getting at least two sets of camo. This helps compensate for seasonal changes and, gives you a bit of flexability for varying geographic regions.

Some things to consider:

A lot of modern camo designs (i.e. Multi-Cam, Omnipat, ATACS, etc) are relying on neutral colors to help blend in to multiple environments. They work but only to a limited extent, and they are generally not that effective at the distances we see in paintball (i.e. MultiCam stands out as 'tan' in the summer months here in Virginia).

MARPAT and CADPAT on the other hand relyb upon color-matching and their disruptive patterns. They each have their own problems. Neither of them blend in well to the light tans we see, especially at foot level on commercially operated paintball fields.

Two patterns, I actually despise are the Tippmann (post SPECOPSPB partnership) and BT 'woodland' patterns. I've seen them in person, and neither of them match any colors I've ever seen in the woods. They look worse, the farther you get from them (Kind of turn into a puke-ish colored blob).

A lot of paintball 'camo' pants fail in that they have large monochrome areas or stripes (Knee Pads, waist bands, stretch panels, etc). These are not conducive to hiding as their unatural shape draws the human eye.


The bottom line is if you are interested in using your camo to assist in hiding, you need to find color schemes that works best with the regions, seasons, and positions you hide in.

Personally, I recomend getting color neutral accessories (i.e. Harness / Vest) as they tend to be dominated or 'broken up' by whatever clothing you are wearing.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:30 PM

By neautral do you mean like buy a coyote tan vest?
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

The bottom line is if you are interested in using your camo to assist in hiding, you need to find color schemes that works best with the regions, seasons, and positions you hide in.

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And that's exactly what he means by neutral... Coyote Tan, Coyote Brown, or OD molle base w/ either camo or solid pouches - mixing it up is perfectly fine. That way if you do get two sets or even find yourself adding another set down the road it won't cost you a full new rig as well.

The place I play in NE Ohio - lots of underbrush, grassy fields, full-on forest, concrete urban area, etc... colors all change w/ the seasons, from the browns of Winter to bright greens of Spring & tans/yellows of late Summer / early Fall. I've had an exceptional experience w/ Multicam. I've had teamates lose me when only 15' away & groups of bad guys walk within 10' only to look right over top of me. It isn't absolutely perfect in every setting of the field but unlike most patterns, it's never bad in any of those areas. At the same time, a lot of guys at the field use Woodland Digi to great effect. I would've walked right up on a guy this past Saturday had I not seen his bare hands through the 15' of brush that were in between us, it was getting close to dusk so even without any green it blends pretty well in any darker environment like underbrush & obviously works great when the forest is full green. However it looks pretty bad in any lighter background, especially during the Fall or in town.

If you have to go w/ one setup then MC is pretty ideal for varied terrain like you may encounter in the Midwest, if you can swing the two then add Woodland Digi. Most Woodland digi is pretty easy to find locally (surplus stores) & is typically the same price as any ACU or Woodland. As for MC, the cost isn't as high as it used to be (usually around $5-10 bucks more for a pair of MC BDU pants vs. woodland/acu/digi) & w/ online shopping anything MC is pretty easy to find. If you really want to save money on MC then you can try the Chinese knock-off versions but they can be hit or miss as far as colors.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 02:56 PM

Will the coyote tan be more of a sand color or what?
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 03:03 PM

I've seen two different options on solid colors in that color range - Desert Sand / Desert Tan (whited out sandy color) & Coyote Tan (beige/yellowish color). Coyote tan looks better w/ MC, Desert Sand is closer to the color of the old 3 or 6-color Desert.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 03:17 PM

Generally where I play (CPX) and Outlaw ball down here in Mississippi. And it's typically pretty dark so the tan won't work. :(
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 03:40 PM

For dark areas (heavily wooded/shaded) I like Tiger Stripe and DPM. In Ontario and Quebec, Spring to Fall, these are the 2 types of camo I prefer in the woods. If it's mixed woods and more open and grassy areas, I really like Flecktarn. Not as dark as the previously mentioned styles, with more brown and tan for dried grass and underbrush.

Of course, camo is only really helpful if you're stationary. If you plan on doing a lot of full-out sprinting through the woods, just wear whatever is comfortable.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:11 PM

Of course, camo is only really helpful if you're stationary. If you plan on doing a lot of full-out sprinting through the woods, just wear whatever is comfortable.


Agreed. I try and think of camo this way: use it like animals do in nature. Stationary and slow, skulking movements are the two ways to go if you're trying to blend in. Otherwise, just go for broke and run, since the camo isn't going to help if you're moving normally or fast. However, camo does help if you're using it right.

Many times I've run right at the whistle, to a spot I've planned out in advance. Then, as soon as I get there, I drop to ground, blend in, and wait. Keep brush either right in front of you or right behind you to break your silhouette and give the camo something to blend in with. When the other team moves right by you, then you carefully pick your shots. If you have to move up, don't be afraid to crawl. This will keep your profile low, and allow low brush to help conceal your movements. I've crawled right up to opponents this way (granted, they were too busy trading shots with my more obvious teammates, but at least this way I had a chance to close with them undetected).

Flecktarn has got to be one of the most underrated of all camo patterns. It works suprisingly well in many different environments. Hard to find good accessories in Flecktarn though... for that reason I tend to go with what I find second best: Marpat. Tiger stripe used to be my camo of choice before though... does a great job of breaking up your silhouette (making it harder for opponents eyes to register you as a human shape), but not as good for concealment and blending in.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:34 PM

I've been thinking about picking up some MARPAT bdus. DO they work well? I'm also really tempted to get these..

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

I've been thinking about picking up some MARPAT bdus. DO they work well? I'm also really tempted to get these..


Is that what the Italian forces wear? First time I've ever seen it before. Looks like their take on tiger stripe... not bad. Disruptive lines, like tiger stripe, but without the heavy use of black (which doesn't actually occur in nature all that much). Not sure if there's enough contrast for true disruptive camo, but looks pretty good regardless. Wouldn't wear this in a desert setting, but I'd happily take these in a forested / semi forested setting.

Marpat works very well around the pacific northwest (where I live). Not sure about everywhere else though.

Again, I'd REALLY like to try out the new Afghan National Army digital camo. Looks like something right inbetween Marpat and Cadpat in terms of balance of green and brown. I'm guessing it would work amazing for here (not sure about Afghanistan though...).

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:52 PM

It's Greek Army camo (made in Italy, but the label gave it away :P).
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:49 PM

I really enjoyed the Valken rage for camo gear a friend uses it and he really likes it and it breathes well and there is a selection to choose from (ACU Marpat Tiger Stripe Woodland and V-Cam)
In South Africa the Marpat works the best so I am hoping to get the Zulu Pants and Sierra Jersey
but for where ever you are just take a photo of the general foliage and brush and just compare it to the surroundings and buy the best match:

ACU- Dry area with dull color surroundings (gery)
Marpat- Seems to be a general color that works well in small areas of bush and plants(lighter browns and green)
Tiger Stripe- Bush and plants with lots of shadows (Black and dirty green)
Woodland- General woods (Darker browns and Green)
V-Cam-Grasslands (light tan)

Also remember that it doesnt help getting camo clothing when you have like a bright Red/blue /yellow gun mask or hopper but if you do have non camo gear you can buy camo tape from you local hunting store to wrap your gun

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:53 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:51 AM


I've been thinking about picking up some MARPAT bdus. DO they work well? I'm also really tempted to get these..


Is that what the Italian forces wear? First time I've ever seen it before. Looks like their take on tiger stripe... not bad. Disruptive lines, like tiger stripe, but without the heavy use of black (which doesn't actually occur in nature all that much). Not sure if there's enough contrast for true disruptive camo, but looks pretty good regardless. Wouldn't wear this in a desert setting, but I'd happily take these in a forested / semi forested setting.

Marpat works very well around the pacific northwest (where I live). Not sure about everywhere else though.

Again, I'd REALLY like to try out the new Afghan National Army digital camo. Looks like something right inbetween Marpat and Cadpat in terms of balance of green and brown. I'm guessing it would work amazing for here (not sure about Afghanistan though...).

Its actually the Greek military issue. Its known as Hellenic Lizard and is based off of French Lizard

And you guys think black gear would be ok with this camo?
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:37 PM

we are on the second page of a camo thread and nobody mentioned DyeCam?? thats odd

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:56 AM

BT woodland digi camo. The pants, jesery and gloves will run you just at 100 on ANS and I have used them every weekend for 6 months in speedball the woods mud everything. They are amazing.



I've got a full set of the BT woodland stuff and it's simply too dark to be properly effective in the areas when I play.
The quality is high, though, as I've been wearing the stuff for well on 3 years now.
BT's new Multicam-inspired Terrapat pattern is much better, but I've heard that quality control has gone down, especially on the pants.

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Well I'm trying to decide between multicam and Digital woodland camo. So what one would YOU choose?

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Multicam is heads and shoulders more effective on the average paintball field than darker, green patterns, especially in wintertime.
Go with the Multicam or something based on its colorway (Dyecam, Terrapat, Omnipat, V-Cam, Rap-4's 8-Color-Desert, whatever).


The only pattern I think might be superior to Multicam for the average paintballer is Pencott Greenzone, but it's not widely available yet and I don't know of anyone making paintball-specific clothing in it... yet.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:31 PM

If you want good quality camo and a reasonable price go to an outfitter store for hunting. Cabelas.com or Basspro.com are very good palces to get camo from.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 12:54 PM

I've got a full set of the BT woodland stuff and it's simply too dark to be properly effective in the areas when I play.
The quality is high, though, as I've been wearing the stuff for well on 3 years now.
BT's new Multicam-inspired Terrapat pattern is much better, but I've heard that quality control has gone down, especially on the pants.

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Well I'm trying to decide between multicam and Digital woodland camo. So what one would YOU choose?

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Multicam is heads and shoulders more effective on the average paintball field than darker, green patterns, especially in wintertime.
Go with the Multicam or something based on its colorway (Dyecam, Terrapat, Omnipat, V-Cam, Rap-4's 8-Color-Desert, whatever).


The only pattern I think might be superior to Multicam for the average paintballer is Pencott Greenzone, but it's not widely available yet and I don't know of anyone making paintball-specific clothing in it... yet.
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I've got some of the old BT style "camo", and I agree, it's too dark, the pattern is too uniform (not random enough), but it's very comfortable and very durable. I use it on the speedball field now, not for woodsball.

I find Multicam (and the like) too light coloured for fields in the Pacific Northwest. We've got rainforest here, damnit. The ground level isn't really tan... it's more of a rich coffee brown. Thus, Marpat works amazingly well. The only things that are that light in colour here are the bunkers... damn paint leaves a white residue on everything.

I'd love to try out that Pencott Greenzone... looks amazing. If any of you guys see this stuff up for sale anywhere, mind posting it here? Keep us in the loop, okay?
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 01:07 AM

I'd love to try out that Pencott Greenzone... looks amazing. If any of you guys see this stuff up for sale anywhere, mind posting it here? Keep us in the loop, okay?


I found a shirt, but it's not cheap...
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:11 PM

I found a shirt, but it's not cheap...
http://wtfpb.com/Whi...CombatShirt.htm

Then again, it is custom-made-to-order.


Looks alot like Cadpat in the closeup pics. However, more like ATAC with moss bits on the pic you supplied. I'm confused...

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 07:56 PM

Yeah, my impression is that it looked more like this:
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:28 PM

Yeah, my impression is that it looked more like this:
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Nice... looks alot like PE HDE pattern, but with MUCH better contrasting colours.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:23 PM

It actually sort of looks like flecktarn (the pattern not the colors) with the spots. Anybody find any bdus in this yet?

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 01:16 AM

multicam does an excellent job of taking on the "shades" of its surroundings

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 10:18 AM

Hate to thread jack here but what camo pattern(s) would you guys recommend for play in NJ?
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 06:04 AM

i got a bunch of woodland camo bdus from my dad when he was in the national guard and here in minnesota they work great. especially with all the pine trees we have

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 05:42 AM

Well I'm trying to decide between multicam and Digital woodland camo. So what one would YOU choose?

Carolinian forest (google it), CADPAT during summer, while in fall use Alpenflage, and waffen oakleaf work. You'll never find repro ww2 german camo cheap. Basic coyote brown or duck hunting camo also works well in fall, and cheap!

Also DO mix and match! Coyote pants with woodland shirt for evergreen areas with pine needle ground. Break up your silhouette before trying to blend with every possible scene.
Camo is the art of deception :)

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 09:08 AM

I play a lot in the New England Fall. IE Leaves falling off the trees dark brown orange tanish goop. Multicam works well for that. In the summertime I simply wear my speedball gear. Granted its a mix of Black and OD Green.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:47 AM

Check this site out guys: http://www.strikehol...t-of-the-world/

 

Just scroll down through the short article...Tons of great camo...



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 12:22 PM

I play a lot in the New England Fall. IE Leaves falling off the trees dark brown orange tanish goop. Multicam works well for that. In the summertime I simply wear my speedball gear. Granted its a mix of Black and OD Green.

For fields with evergreens BUT needle floor, cadpat/woodland/flektarn top and alpenflage or basic brown/tan pants.

Enpty trees with fallen leaves and the random fern or evergreen, use a mix that works. Still brown pants and the ammount of green versus browns depends on your field and seasons.

Summer time nothing beats tans and faded greens.

Check out the camo pic. Its an example of FAIL camoflage EXCEPT the desert / coyote brown boots in the fallen leaves.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 03:00 PM

Check this site out guys: http://www.strikehol...t-of-the-world/
 
Just scroll down through the short article...Tons of great camo...


Nice for educational purposes, but camo you cannot BUY is useless.

Take a walk in local forests and take pics. Then check online for patterns that work for YOU, not another continent LOL

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 04:00 PM

do you! Im all digi camo'd out but that shit dont help for nothing unless I lay in a gravel pit or on that one couch from that pic that floats around the internet.

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I play a lot in the New England Fall. IE Leaves falling off the trees dark brown orange tanish goop. Multicam works well for that. In the summertime I simply wear my speedball gear. Granted its a mix of Black and OD Green.

For fields with evergreens BUT needle floor, cadpat/woodland/flektarn top and alpenflage or basic brown/tan pants.

Enpty trees with fallen leaves and the random fern or evergreen, use a mix that works. Still brown pants and the ammount of green versus browns depends on your field and seasons.

Summer time nothing beats tans and faded greens.

Check out the camo pic. Its an example of FAIL camoflage EXCEPT the desert / coyote brown boots in the fallen leaves.

 

I dont see anyone in this picture. Just the forrest. LMAO

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:53 PM

I've been wearing Realtree for years... It works really well on the places I play in Ohio. 

 

The key as others have said is to cover up the obvious stuff on your gear. Think about it, what do you see when playing against other players... I typically see a hopper first, as it is usually a big brightly colored blob moving around... for years I had mine totally covered, but now I run a X7 style which has a very low profile, and I make sure all my gear has realtree on it. 

 

Here is an old pic of my stuff. I also make sure I get mud on my knee pads so they don't stick out...

 

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obviously short sleeves is a bad idea, but it was very hot that day...



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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:52 AM

obviously short sleeves is a bad idea, but it was very hot that day...


Real tree and summer greens don't mix.

Now...let's discuss how inapropriate THIS is for paintball
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