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#1 -ORaNGe-

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:58 PM

Well it all began with a little fuckhole named crzy4paint. He was a pain in the ass with constant petty infractions, then when he finally got IP banned turned out he had already had a gun sent to him in a trade. I added him to Facebook, had his email, address, other info and offered to remove the IP ban if he worked things out, to this point it didn't yet look like a scam, but given he was IP banned and could see it as him having "nothing to lose" I removed it for him to get things settled and he did.

From there I made it so that Mods have to dig deeper prior to anyone being perma-banned to avoid shit like this again. He soon went back to his old shens and before IP banning him again I looked through his posts to be sure he didn't have a deal in progress. However I must have missed something because it turned out that shishkabob had shipped him his Victory with the promise of getting G6R in the deal. Well, shishkabob PM'd me telling me about it and the second I read the name it was an instant "Fuck this kid...." thought that ran through my head, that little shit crzy4paint. He told me he wasn't responding to emails or PM's on PbN, he also removed me as a friend on Facebook and upped his security settings. I sent him an email and told him unless he responds by the next day shit will hit the fan.

So, the hunt was on I gave his info to shishkabob to add him to Facebook, no luck. So I used his address and last name to find a phone number, I ended up finding his mom's name and a phone number, however the phone number just lead to a fax line =(. I then began calling local fields in his are, fields who I have to give my thanks to for staying on the phone with me, most for over 20mins to try and help out and spread the word. Those fields being....

Hi-Tec Paintball in Bradenton
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Kohn Sports, Diane Anderson was a pleasure to talk to.
Orbital Paintball, the owner there was awesome, actually talked to him for about an hour, that guy really has a passion for this sport I see why Mike and Willie play there.

Also a thanks to HarbingerTG whose on staff at MCB and did some digging on that end as well.

So anyway after burning up a bunch of leads I searched his mom on Facebook and found a woman with the same name but hyphonated, so I figured "Well it's a long shot, but perhaps she kept her name and was recently married". Sent her all the details and said if it was infact her son let her know it is a felony to have possession of stolen goods which have crossed state lines. Nothing back from her, likely not the right person.

At this point I was frustrated, normally one of the first 2 steps works, when it comes down to me calling shops and fields I'm getting irritated. So I posted up in the staff forum for any help. Posted up all of my progress and failures and Slinky posted up saying "That's only about 40 minutes from me". Slinky you see is chilling with Mike and Willie in Florida as many of you have seen him on the radio shows. He was just waiting for a confirmed address on the guy since the phone number listing's address was different than the shipping address, possibly a place of work, a friend's etc. that could lead to wasted time. I ended up later telling him it's the best I have, the most recent address and we'll have to hope it works.

So yeah, Slinky made a trip out and nobody was home, he then made a SECOND trip and VOILA, does this look familiar shishkabob?

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When all else fails and some little fuck wants to scam someone here just know TechPB'ers are fuckin world wide, I don't care if you're in the middle of Numibia we'll have someone knocking on your door kindly asking you to hand over the shit you stole.

Shishkabob, kindly send me your shipping address, all you have to do is pay return shipping and you sir have your Victory back. After all this I think you should be shooting bitches beside me at LL =)


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I just picture the kid pulling one of these when Slinky arrived.

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and the rest of TechPB partied hard!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:01 PM

Slink just raided the place? Thats pretty coolio. :lol:

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

+10 Internets good sir. Well done.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:08 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:11 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:13 PM

So, how did Slinky's visit go down? Like, did the kid's mom answer the door? Etc...

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:16 PM

slinky give us the details!!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:16 PM

Just noticed. Isn't that last gif from FredieW's Halo video?


Yes.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:18 PM

I wanna raid some kids house...

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:20 PM

Everyone should PM him and ask for details and congratulate him, he'll love it!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:24 PM

Everyone should PM him and ask for details and congratulate him, he'll love it!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:26 PM

It was slinkyaroo

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:38 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:46 PM

Dude! Thats so awesome! B) I was a lil worryed about buying in the BSTs but after reading this im gonna be getting some stuff :D Sweet!



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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:48 PM

and....he's now getting banned from PbN....

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:51 PM

and....he's now getting banned from PbN....


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:51 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

Yeah, we're cool enough to inform MCB and PbN of when we have a scammer so they get IP banned off all the major sites to protect paintballers. That forces them to then if they want to conduct a scam they pretty much have to do it locally, highly risking getting blackballed at all the local fields as well as a potential ass kicking.

MCB works with us very closely when it comes to this stuff.

PbN won't share shit with anyone because they don't give a fuck outside of their own website =)

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

I lol'd, what is this like the 3rd scammer down? Orange, you gotta put stickers of a person on your hopper or somethin, like what pilots do with tanks and airplanes.


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:00 PM

Wow Orange, thats dedication to its max!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:01 PM

I think I've hit up about a dozen scammers since TechPB started the BST, only 2 so far managed to get away with it and keep the cash or gear they got. One wasn't here he was on MCB, 3 I ended up hammering to the wall like this, the MCB guy was one of them. So that leaves 6 who once I put pressure on them through PM's they just complied and sent the money or gear back or the money got recovered through PayPal.

On that note pay with PayPal everytime, no money order bullshit. Everytime I've seen someone scammed who used PayPal and paid with the Goods tab (If you gift it ZERO protection from them) PayPal recovered the money without fail.

In the Air Force they refer to air or ground accidents or incidents happening with the "swiss cheese effect". There has to be a few holes that line up for an accident to occur. Several different people must fuck up before something bad can happen, 6 people may fuck up but the last guy in the chain may pick up it and avert disaster. It's the same here, there are layers of protection.

First is the BST rules, this will filter out most people being able to conduct a scam, if they see our rules and realize they can't get proper pics, they just walk away.

Second is the BST Mods and reports, if they do post something 9 times out of 10 it'll be caught by the users reporting (we appreciate it very much btw guys) or BST Mods and other staffers cruising the BST.

Third, deals only being allowed to take place in public view, when this happens if something fishy occurs we have another chance to catch it.

Fourth, third party services being offered by staffers.

Fifth, the smart buyer/BST'er, if you know what to look out for and how to collect proper information you are MUCH safer.

So it's a pretty dense filter for people to get through. They can always do EVERYTHING right and decide to just say "Fuck him, I'm not sending anything". But in that event you get the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th protections, Staff grinding them to get them to return it, if that fails PayPal retrieval, if it's a trade and that isn't available if you've dealt with a trade or cash you can also involve the police. Finally there is us getting staff or established users to collect the item at their home (parent's don't like felonies on their kid's records), or us destroying the person's reputation in his area and getting him banned from every shop and field within 100 miles of them.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:02 PM

I lol'd, what is this like the 3rd scammer down? Orange, you gotta put stickers of a person on your hopper or somethin, like what pilots do with tanks and airplanes.



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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:06 PM

Things like this make it easier to look through bst and not worry about getting scammed... now I just need money to buy things :(

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:07 PM

slinkyaroo


He's in Belville. Canada.

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now it makes sense.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:16 PM

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Using a gun that's been hardly maintained and tossed from person to person more than a village whore is hardly a fair way to compare the marker.

 


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:18 PM

One cool thing is this too, I'm not the only one who can and will fuck people up who are on staff. Slinky obviously was the hero in this case, Mike has grinded people hard as shit, then I've seen etekgirl, sagestyler, jtusa, erg, Lats and other BST Mods do some serious work on people and get stuff back. Flat out we have a BST dream team here at TechPB, if it weren't for the BST Mods, Globals and Admins who take care of the users it would be chaos.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:24 PM

One cool thing is this too, I'm not the only one who can and will fuck people up who are on staff. Slinky obviously was the hero in this case, Mike has grinded people hard as shit, then I've seen etekgirl, sagestyler, jtusa, erg, Lats and other BST Mods do some serious work on people and get stuff back. Flat out we have a BST dream team here at TechPB, if it weren't for the BST Mods, Globals and Admins who take care of the users it would be chaos.


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:38 PM

I'm just posting this video everywhere cause it's the shit, enjoy



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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:03 PM

I'm just posting this video everywhere cause it's the shit, enjoy

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:22 PM

this is great! lol orange i always love reading these type of threads when you do post them!
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:42 PM


One cool thing is this too, I'm not the only one who can and will fuck people up who are on staff. Slinky obviously was the hero in this case, Mike has grinded people hard as shit, then I've seen etekgirl, sagestyler, jtusa, erg, Lats and other BST Mods do some serious work on people and get stuff back. Flat out we have a BST dream team here at TechPB, if it weren't for the BST Mods, Globals and Admins who take care of the users it would be chaos.


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:50 PM

can we turn this into a t.v show? and with the proceeds pay for the forum give some to mike and the mods and the rest go to underprivileged fields? lol because id drop everything to see this televised lmfao but on a more serious note great job by the mods and techpb as a whole, this is what makes us the best forum anywhere, for any topic lol

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:07 PM

Now you all know why we have our bst format and insist it be followed. Sometimes it's a bother but because shishkabob filled it out correctly it proved the marker was his and we knew what to get back for him. Hard to supply pics once the marker is in the hands of a scammer. It's just as hard for the staff to collect the needed info if deals are done behind closed doors.

There's a reason for the rules and a reason we pick the staff we do.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:14 PM

Now you know why we have our bst format and insist it be followed. Sometimes it's a bother but because shishkabob filled it out correctly it proved the marker was his and we knew what to get back for him. Hard to supply pics once the marker is in the hands of a scammer. It's just as hard for the staff to collect the needed info if deals are done behind closed doors.

There's a reason for the rules and a reason we pick the staff we do.


Hm, I never thought about it that way.

Are you gonna give us any info on how the meeting with this kid went down? :rolleyes:

I show up at a field that I never been to before for some rec-play wearing cargo pants with a t-shirt....carrying a old mech Spyder and two pringle potato chip cans for pods shoved in the pants pockets. The stares are priceless and after the first game or so you get to see the grins from the ref and players who know....priceless.


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

Yeah slinky do tell! Was there tears?

Or...urine!?


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:23 PM

I can picture a group of Tech-pb mods knocking on someones door all armed with egos,vics and luxes.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:25 PM

More like



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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:50 PM

More like

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:06 PM

i feel this plays in oranges head when he's tracking someone down


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:04 AM

OMG thank you both Orange and slinky, you honestly have no idea how much this means to me. Orange with your persistence to take this kid down, and slinky you with the follow through in person to insure it got taken care of. We definitely do have the best moderating staff here when it comes to looking out for their members. I am just speechless right now, long horrible day at work and i get home and find out this wonderful news. and as much as i would like to keep this gun as a reminder of what yall did for me, it will go on the chopping block to finance my trip to LL this year. thank you again orange and slinky and everyone else who helped out this means the world to me and i hope someday in some way i can repay the favor to yall.
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