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#1 Dominerva210

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:01 AM

So the other day i got to thinking a autococker is essentially two tubes with some holes in it stacked on one another. Would it be possible to make a body out of carbon fiber? Then for things like front block, barrel threading, feedneck and grip frame some sort of aluminum adapters which sould sit in the carbon fiber body. I dunno. You think it would be possible? I think an all carbon fiber bodied cocker with like a DW barrel and ccm parts would look pretty clean.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:21 AM

i dont know if its possible but it sounds expensive lol.

another option could be having thin metal sleeves in the body and then laying the carbon fibur around those

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:20 PM

Its possible, but would be expensive and a lot of work. <BR><BR>So unless you got the time and money, keep dreaming.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:35 AM

if you can find someone that would do it for you
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:30 PM

is carbon fiber porus? I feel like i wouldnt seal pressure like metal deos

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:51 PM

The carbon fiber itself is, but I'm not sure about the resin. cs900 is working on a carbon fiber Shocker body over on the nation, and he was able to get it holding air, IIRC.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:55 PM

I was sure there was a carbon fiber cocker... Or was that just made to look like carbon fiber/metal wrapped in carbon fiber? Now I need to dig it up...

Edit: Yep, it was a karni, and just hydrographiced. Nothing to see here... Move along...

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:05 PM

is there some advantage over composite or am i missing something ?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:13 PM

is there some advantage over composite or am i missing something ?


Carbon fiber would look cooler, be lighter, and have a bigger wow factor.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:43 PM

You could do molded, then machine it. Though I think that it would be best to machine the tubes and press sleaves in them. In the end it would be cool, but would bearly be lighter then aluminum.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:44 PM

Machining carbon fiber doesnt go well, because it frays horribly.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 07:12 PM

its not a autococker but http://www.mcarterbr...rt-classic.html
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:12 PM

Not carbon fiber, but the shop at my field may be making a handful of clear bodies from ballistic plastic at some point.

http://customcockers...r-cocker-bodies

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:12 PM

^thats pretty awsome

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:25 PM

there is really only one way to make a CF cocker body that would last... as CF and friction dont go well together... what you would need to do is make an aluminum sleketon of the body and grip frame, with solid tubes were the air passages are... then you do vacuformed and pressed CF around said tubes... its also called OCLV carbon fiber, and is the type of CF used in high stress items like bike frames... reason for this, the CF will need to hold pressure, and provide strength and support to the skeleton... woulod could then have a CF cocker body and frame... but, the big thing with CF... the mold used are usually in the 10's of thousands of dollars to make, and they dont last long... Trek said they replaced their mold every 100 frames or so....
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:16 PM

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:20 PM

Carbon fiber is definitely usable in a marker frame. It's just incredibly hard to use and form without a controlled vacuum process. The frame would be airtight if you could get the resin to mold correctly but it can be incredibly hard. It takes hours to pull all the oxygen out of a part. I did multiple projects using composites in college and they are headaches. I would suggest avoiding it unless you have a background in resins and polymers.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:53 PM


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:06 PM

Thats not actually carbon fiber, thats just hydrographics like they did with the camo karnivors.





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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:31 PM

You could something like the vibe. Mill a thin breech insert out of aluminum and then make a CF body that will hold the breech.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:43 AM

Why on a 'cocker? There are much better guns to shave weight off in my opinion.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:05 AM

Nothing wrong with the autococker platform. I'd shoot an autococker over most modern markers, they are just fun markers to play with.

Most "better" markers don't need weight removed anyway, because they are already made extremely light.





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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:08 PM

the weight of a cocker isnt with the body... the bodies are very light... its witht eh internals and the pneumatics, and all the stuff that goes on teh bodies that makes a cocker a cocker... but, that weight is what makes a cocker such a smooth shooting gun... violent, but smooth...

as for a CF body... CF, while it does offer drastic weight reduction, its utilized more for its vibration damping qualities and its ability to be manufactured for directional strength... if you need vertical strength, you can weave, layer and mold the CF to be vertically strong... same for horizontal strength... you can also sculpt CF by using a product called honeycomb nomex... it allows for even greater weight reduction, with zero loss of strength...
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:54 PM

Since no one can seem to find pictures I will provide them.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:19 PM

I couldn't find any pics of the bodies KCPS did.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:03 PM

who made the acrylic one?

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:08 AM

KPCS did G10 bodies I believe (sleeved)
Turtle did delrin bodies, I believe, which looked like disruptive bodies and may have been done by them.

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