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#1 Hedgy22

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:04 PM

I recently purchased a Lurker bolt for my axe after reading how highly people recommended it here, and it came yesterday. Installation was surprisingly easy, as I heard from most people it was kind of a pain. Took me maybe 5 minutes. I lowered the dwell to 5, lowered the air to about 150, and screwed the bolt spring thing all the way and slowly backed it out like people said. Everything worked great, and my gun's shooting real well. Well this morning I go to clean my gun, and notice I forgot to take my tank off after shooting it yesterday. I usually don't forget this, and I'm worried maybe I broke something. I also forgot to turn off the ASA. So I flip the ASA off, and hear it degas, and screw the tank out. Then as I try to take the bolt off, it wont come out. I can hit the button, and screw it to the left for the first part of the unscrew twist process, but it wont pull back after that first turn. After trying to pull it for a little bit, I decide to unscrew the bolt spring screw thing to see if I can see whats preventing it from coming out. After I unscrew it a little, I feel it degas through the bolt spring tension thing. After that gas came out, I was able to get the bolt out no problem. Did I mess something up? Why didn't it degas fully after I turned the ASA off?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:08 PM

Some axes at first take a few seconds to degass. Soon it should just do it all at once. Next time check your gauge before trying to take out the bolt.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:11 PM

unscrew the tank/turn off the ASA, dry fire the marker to make sure no more air, then you do whatever you need to do with the marker.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

I checked the gauge, it was at zero after I turned the ASA off and unscrewed the tank

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

I checked the gauge, it was at zero after I turned the ASA off and unscrewed the tank


always dryfire and dont' rely on the gauge to tell you. There could be some air still in the system. Dry fire until it's done.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

I can't say this for certain, having not tested or explored it myself, but I distrust any bolt replacement that involves spacers or the like, as it may or may not place seals in different places, and cause issues like this. It is indeed, as said above, to dry fire after degassing to ensure that there is no pressure left in the chambers before attempting to remove parts.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

Sticktodrum: No need for distrust, my friend. The Lurker Eigenbolt doesn't put any additional seals in a pressurized (at rest) area of the gun. The AXE is a blow forward design, how could a bolt affect degassing?
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:08 PM

Yeah, my lurker bolt never affected degassing.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

Sticktodrum: No need for distrust, my friend. The Lurker Eigenbolt doesn't put any additional seals in a pressurized (at rest) area of the gun. The AXE is a blow forward design, how could a bolt affect degassing?


I've never owned the Lurker bolt, nor have I seen diagrams of it in operation inside the gun, so my skepticism remains. I distrust almost everything that doesn't make its way across my table and into a video. Posted Image

As for how a bolt could affect degassing, I don't know.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:28 PM

In the Axe, there is no air pressure on the bolt when it's at rest, so it really doesn't matter how different an Axe bolt is.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:12 PM

The Axe have a safety feature that it won't let you take the bolt out if you have air in the chamber. Just dry fire it after degassing it next time.



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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:51 PM


Sticktodrum: No need for distrust, my friend. The Lurker Eigenbolt doesn't put any additional seals in a pressurized (at rest) area of the gun. The AXE is a blow forward design, how could a bolt affect degassing?


I've never owned the Lurker bolt, nor have I seen diagrams of it in operation inside the gun, so my skepticism remains. I distrust almost everything that doesn't make its way across my table and into a video. Posted Image

As for how a bolt could affect degassing, I don't know.


No offense intended, but then... why post?
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:47 PM

The Axe have a safety feature that it won't let you take the bolt out if you have air in the chamber. Just dry fire it after degassing it next time.


I'm guessing this is the issue. There is a safety device like a plunger that will go up into the bolt guide to prevent you from removing the bolt guide while pressurized. Either the gun is still pressurized or the plunger is stuck in the up/safe position.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:15 PM

No offense intended, but then... why post?


None comprehended. Why post? Conjecture, most likely.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:09 PM


No offense intended, but then... why post?


None comprehended. Why post? Conjecture, most likely.


Fair enough :)
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